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--- High oxidative stress during ageing / confirmed
Doe,,,,, ya see the name of this newsgroup? I could not find the word arthritis in your post. I know it hard for you to sort out the world around you. This is a newsgroup about health as it pertains to Arthritis. As your mind struggles to tie all things into too much or not enough iron,,,,, You can be reported to your ISP for posting about things that have nothing to do with arthritis. This is a warning and I know that you can post just like everyone else and AOL does support what I have said and has taken steps in the past to support the charter of this newsgroup. Harv Harv "doe" news:20040613120341.13482.00001003@mb-m18.aol.com... > Br J Nutr. 2004 Jun;91(6):943-50. Related Articles, Links > > > Oxidative stress status in an institutionalised elderly group after the intake > of a phenolic-rich dessert. > > Carmen Ramirez-Tortosa M, Garcia-Alonso J, Luisa Vidal-Guevara M, Quiles JL, > Jesus Periago M, Linde J, Dolores Mesa M, Ros G, Abellan P, Gil A. > > Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, Institute of Nutrition and > Food Technology, University of Granada, Campus de Cartuja, 18071 Granada, > Spain. > > The elderly population undergoes a series of physiological and sociological > changes common to old age with a high probability of suffering degenerative > illness and malnutrition. A dessert rich in phenolic compounds has been > designed by using concentrated juices of grape, cherry, blackberry, > blackcurrant and raspberry with the aim of it being used as a complementary > food in adulthood. In the present study, we investigated the effect of the > intake of this dessert (a jar of 200 g daily for a period of 2 weeks), with an > antioxidant activity equivalent to ten servings of fruits and vegetables, on > several markers of oxidative and antioxidant status in DNA and plasma in a > group of elderly individuals. Non-smoking institutionalised elderly subjects > were recruited from a pool of volunteers in an old-age home in Murcia (Spain). > Twenty-two subjects (six men and sixteen women) participated in the study. The > study was designed as a randomised intervention trial with a period of 2 weeks. > At days 1 and 15, blood samples were collected to analyse total antioxidant > capacity, biochemical parameters, antioxidant vitamins, LDL peroxidation, and > DNA damage in peripheral blood lymphocytes. The conclusion of the present study > is that a 2-week intervention with our dessert enriched with natural polyphenol > compounds in elderly individuals does not give enough time to find changes in > the antioxidant and oxidative status. Also, the view that the marked > antioxidant ability of polyphenols in vitro does not translate to analogous > effects in vivo was confirmed. Moreover, a highly oxidative stress status > during ageing was confirmed, together with the need to perform follow-up > nutritional studies to improve this situation. > > PMID: 15182397 [PubMed - in process] > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > > Who loves ya. > Tom > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com > Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking > > >
>Subject: Re: High oxidative stress during ageing / confirmed >From: "Harvey R. Stone" >This is a warning and I know that you can post just >like everyone else and AOL does support what I have said and has taken steps >in the past to support the charter of this newsgroup. You .. know dick ABOUT arthritis .. as evidenced by this post .. You firstly speak of how you USE vitamin E to combat .. oxidative stress .. and NOW .. when it .. 'suits your liking' .. you selectively .. FORGET .. that you are FULLY AWARE of the implications of oxidative stress in those with .. arthritis .. So .. THAT makes you a pussy .. What did I call you before .. ? A .. pussy .. ? I have great insight .. don't .. I .. harv .. >> Br J Nutr. 2004 Jun;91(6):943-50. Related Articles, Links >> >> >> Oxidative stress status in an institutionalised elderly group after the >intake >> of a phenolic-rich dessert. >> >> Carmen Ramirez-Tortosa M, Garcia-Alonso J, Luisa Vidal-Guevara M, Quiles >JL, >> Jesus Periago M, Linde J, Dolores Mesa M, Ros G, Abellan P, Gil A. >> >> Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, Institute of Nutrition >and >> Food Technology, University of Granada, Campus de Cartuja, 18071 Granada, >> Spain. >> >> The elderly population undergoes a series of physiological and >sociological >> changes common to old age with a high probability of suffering >degenerative >> illness and malnutrition. A dessert rich in phenolic compounds has been >> designed by using concentrated juices of grape, cherry, blackberry, >> blackcurrant and raspberry with the aim of it being used as a >complementary >> food in adulthood. In the present study, we investigated the effect of the >> intake of this dessert (a jar of 200 g daily for a period of 2 weeks), >with an >> antioxidant activity equivalent to ten servings of fruits and vegetables, >on >> several markers of oxidative and antioxidant status in DNA and plasma in a >> group of elderly individuals. Non-smoking institutionalised elderly >subjects >> were recruited from a pool of volunteers in an old-age home in Murcia >(Spain). >> Twenty-two subjects (six men and sixteen women) participated in the study. >The >> study was designed as a randomised intervention trial with a period of 2 >weeks. >> At days 1 and 15, blood samples were collected to analyse total >antioxidant >> capacity, biochemical parameters, antioxidant vitamins, LDL peroxidation, >and >> DNA damage in peripheral blood lymphocytes. The conclusion of the present >study >> is that a 2-week intervention with our dessert enriched with natural >polyphenol >> compounds in elderly individuals does not give enough time to find changes >in >> the antioxidant and oxidative status. Also, the view that the marked >> antioxidant ability of polyphenols in vitro does not translate to >analogous >> effects in vivo was confirmed. Moreover, a highly oxidative stress status >> during ageing was confirmed, together with the need to perform follow-up >> nutritional studies to improve this situation. >> >> PMID: 15182397 [PubMed - in process] >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ------ >> >> Who loves ya. >> Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking
"doe" news:20040613163013.19071.00001127@mb-m02.aol.com... > >Subject: Re: High oxidative stress during ageing / confirmed > >From: "Harvey R. Stone" > > >This is a warning and I know that you can post just > >like everyone else and AOL does support what I have said and has taken steps > >in the past to support the charter of this newsgroup. > > You .. know dick ABOUT arthritis .. as evidenced by this post .. > > You firstly speak of how you USE vitamin E to combat .. oxidative stress .. and > NOW .. when it .. 'suits your liking' .. you selectively .. FORGET .. that you > are FULLY AWARE of the implications of oxidative stress in those with .. > arthritis .. > > So .. THAT makes you a pussy .. > LOLOL, You just can not get it right. I am sure you are an expert about calling people names or just plain old pussy,,,,,,, its about arthritis in this newsgroup. Surely, you do not need to be told the newsgroups that talk about pussy////.....????? Did you ever think about your need to have people get mad at you and call you names or be----little you about what you post as factual information or the answers to people problems. Iron,,,,, you are a real live joke. If you were not so boring,,, you really would be funny and worth a good laugh. Harv
>Subject: Re: High oxidative stress during ageing / confirmed >From: "Harvey R. Stone" hrstone@swbell..net >Date: 6/13/2004 7:38 PM Mountain Daylight Time >Message-id: > > >"doe" >news:20040613163013.19071.00001127@mb-m02.aol.com... >> >Subject: Re: High oxidative stress during ageing / confirmed >> >From: "Harvey R. Stone" >> >> >This is a warning and I know that you can post just >> >like everyone else and AOL does support what I have said and has taken >steps >> >in the past to support the charter of this newsgroup. >> >> You .. know dick ABOUT arthritis .. as evidenced by this post .. >> >> You firstly speak of how you USE vitamin E to combat .. oxidative stress >.. and >> NOW .. when it .. 'suits your liking' .. you selectively .. FORGET .. that >you >> are FULLY AWARE of the implications of oxidative stress in those with .. >> arthritis .. >> >> So .. THAT makes you a pussy .. >> > >LOLOL, You just can not get it right. I am sure you are an expert about >calling people names or just plain old pussy,,,,,,, its about arthritis in >this newsgroup. Listen you fkg .. puke .. YOU and I .. both KNOW you know full well oxidative stress IS related to arthritis .. The FACT you NOW attempt to say it .. isn't .. IS .. in FACT .. the mark of a pussy .. I don't act like a pussy .. YOU act like a pussy .. I .. didn't MAKE you a pussy .. In fact .. you .. simple .. ARE .. a .. pussy .. THAT .. is .. WHAT .. you .. ARE .. Do you UNDERSTAND .. that .. harv ..? You ARE a pussy .. BY .. your actions .. Actions speak louder than words there .. harv .. or should I say .. pussy .. >Surely, you do not need to be told the newsgroups that >talk about pussy////.....????? Did you ever think about your need to >have people get mad at you and call you names or be----little you about what >you post as factual information or the answers to people problems. >Iron,,,,, you are a real live joke. If you were not so boring,,, you >really would be funny and worth a good laugh. And YOU .. ? Maybe ANOTHER good btfkn .. eh .. harv .. How DOES that .. feel .. to BE .. btfkd .. Eh .. Describe it .. Heh .. heh .. Fkn .. pussy .. Br J Nutr. 2004 Jun;91(6):943-50. Related Articles, Links Oxidative stress status in an institutionalised elderly group after the intake of a phenolic-rich dessert. Carmen Ramirez-Tortosa M, Garcia-Alonso J, Luisa Vidal-Guevara M, Quiles JL, Jesus Periago M, Linde J, Dolores Mesa M, Ros G, Abellan P, Gil A. Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, Institute of Nutrition and Food Technology, University of Granada, Campus de Cartuja, 18071 Granada, Spain. The elderly population undergoes a series of physiological and sociological changes common to old age with a high probability of suffering degenerative illness and malnutrition. A dessert rich in phenolic compounds has been designed by using concentrated juices of grape, cherry, blackberry, blackcurrant and raspberry with the aim of it being used as a complementary food in adulthood. In the present study, we investigated the effect of the intake of this dessert (a jar of 200 g daily for a period of 2 weeks), with an antioxidant activity equivalent to ten servings of fruits and vegetables, on several markers of oxidative and antioxidant status in DNA and plasma in a group of elderly individuals. Non-smoking institutionalised elderly subjects were recruited from a pool of volunteers in an old-age home in Murcia (Spain). Twenty-two subjects (six men and sixteen women) participated in the study. The study was designed as a randomised intervention trial with a period of 2 weeks. At days 1 and 15, blood samples were collected to analyse total antioxidant capacity, biochemical parameters, antioxidant vitamins, LDL peroxidation, and DNA damage in peripheral blood lymphocytes. The conclusion of the present study is that a 2-week intervention with our dessert enriched with natural polyphenol compounds in elderly individuals does not give enough time to find changes in the antioxidant and oxidative status. Also, the view that the marked antioxidant ability of polyphenols in vitro does not translate to analogous effects in vivo was confirmed. Moreover, a highly oxidative stress status during ageing was confirmed, together with the need to perform follow-up nutritional studies to improve this situation. PMID: 15182397 [PubMed - in process] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking
"doe" and then started to foam at the mouth. You are going to have a stroke one of these days while my only problem is that I have too much iron which makes me kind of heavy I guess. Nuffff said troll. See if you can dig up some 10 year old iron studies to worry over if they have something to do with arthritis in your mind. Harv 1 2 3 Next » Related Discussion: Holistic Drug and Alcohol Rehabiltation Program that Works! (2 posts) A great chatroom on irc (1 posts) Been laid off? Retired? (1 posts) Re: sunday night fun (2 posts) Top Discussions From Our Archives ADA Expert Committee Redefines Impaired Fasting Glucose Drug and Alcohol Rehab Program with Fantastic Results Other Discussion Categories Diabetes Symptoms Health Care Policy Health Care Providers HMO
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