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Meat / rheumatoid arthritis Re: Meat / rheumatoid arthritis -- Posted by Harvey R. Stone on 06-18-04 07:28
"Sunshyne" wrote in message
news:20040618003716.04727.00000146@mb-m10.aol.com... > http://www.healingcrow.com/dietsmain/paleo/paleo.html
Hi Sunshyne,,,, If you are going to post replies to this troll, I do not
want to see any posts from you about having hurt feelings when he gets very
abusive,,, crude,,,, or whatever ,,,, because he or she will. I have
seen it many times.
Harv
Re: Meat / rheumatoid arthritis -- Posted by Sunshyne on 06-18-04 09:46
>Hi Sunshyne,,,, If you are going to post replies to this troll, I do not >want to see any posts from you about having hurt feelings when he gets very
>abusive,,, crude,,,, or whatever ,,,, because he or she will. I have
>seen it many times.
>
>Harv
I can take it.
Re: Meat / rheumatoid arthritis -- Posted by doe on 06-18-04 09:14
>Subject: Re: Meat / rheumatoid arthritis >From: sunshyne5108@aol.com (Sunshyne)
>Date: 6/17/2004 10:37 PM Mountain Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20040618003716.04727.00000146@mb-m10.aol.com>
>
>http://www.healingcrow.com/dietsmain/paleo/paleo.html
<>
Masai warriors, Eskimos, South American gouchos, and other peoples may live for
long periods of time on foods that are exclusively of animal origin and that
contain almost no carbohydrate. These people are vigorous and healthy, and we
learn from their eating habits that carbohydrate is not dietary essential,
because they have normal levels of glucose in their blood in spite of the fact
that their diets contain almost no carbohydrate."
<>
Masai warriors,
Actually .. they live to about .. fifty ..
Eskimos,
Eskimos have one of the highest rates of depression .. going ..
South American gouchos
Just rednecks in disguise ..
Turns you into a redneck ..
Br J Nutr. 2000 Nov;84(5):589-95. Related Articles, Links
The role of meat in the expression of rheumatoid arthritis.
Grant WB.
wbgrant@norfolk.infi.net
Rheumatoid arthritis (RA) is characterized by inflammation of the synovial
tissues in the joints. A number of papers related to dietary components that
are associated with this inflammation are reviewed. In addition, the ecological
approach is used to study the links between diet and RA. Multi-country data for
prevalence of RA for females from eight and fifteen countries were compared
statistically with components of national dietary supply. Fat from meat and
offal for the period 2 years before the prevalence data was found to have the
highest statistical association with the prevalence of RA (r(2) 0.877, P<0.001
for eight countries). The statistical correlations for meat and offal were
almost as high as those for their fat. Similar correlations were found for
temporal changes in indices of effects of RA in several European countries
between 1968 and 1978 as more meat was added to the national diets, although
the correlations were higher for meat than for fat. It is hypothesized that
meat and offal may be a major factor contributing to the inflammation in RA. In
the present short review, the author examines some of the data that associate
meat consumption with RA and the possible factors, e.g. fat, Fe and nitrite,
which may contribute to the inflammation.
Publication Types:
Review
Review Literature
PMID: 11177171 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking
Re: Meat / rheumatoid arthritis -- Posted by Sunshyne on 06-18-04 09:58
<> >Masai warriors, Eskimos, South American gouchos, and other peoples may live
>for long periods of time on foods that are exclusively of animal origin and
that >contain almost no carbohydrate. These people are vigorous and healthy, and we
>learn from their eating habits that carbohydrate is not dietary essential,
>because they have normal levels of glucose in their blood in spite of the
>fact
>that their diets contain almost no carbohydrate."
><>
>
>Masai warriors,
>
>Actually .. they live to about .. fifty ..
>
Yeah, yet they most likely did not suffer auto-immune disorders. Or disease
like the world does now.
>Eskimos,
>
>Eskimos have one of the highest rates of depression .. going ..
>
So do other cultures. Besides, prove it?
>South American gouchos
>
>Just rednecks in disguise ..
>Turns you into a redneck ..
>
Heh, I am a redneck. A nice one.
Describe a redneck?
<> >Br J Nutr. 2000 Nov;84(5):589-95. Related Articles, Links
>
>The role of meat in the expression of rheumatoid arthritis.
>
>Grant WB.
>
>wbgrant@norfolk.infi.net
>
>Who loves ya.
>Tom
>Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
>Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore
>DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking
Nope, Humans are omnivores.
Prove Jesus was a vegetarian..
Re: Meat / rheumatoid arthritis -- Posted by Michael Balutescu on 06-21-04 00:38
Guys, when chemistry is involved is not good. Arthritis is generated by an
over-active immune system, this means that the body attacks itself.
I suffered terrible pain as well. My left hip and ankle were very stiff and
when it was to step upstairs always I was bending only the right leg and the
exercise was still very painful.
I've tried many medicines and nutritional supplements including the ones I
consider the best in the world (Reliv) but the enhancements were always
minor and not lasting.
But my research paid off: I discovered the best for my condition, namely the
best immune system moderator in the world: this is called Transfer Factor in
combination with a strong anti-oxidant (Choice 50). Well, in only 2 weeks my
pain disappeared and in one month my joints were as in my youth (I am 60
now).
Due to the spectacular results I joined the distribution network for such
miracle products. I am really sorry to tell you about the business when you
suffer atrocious pain, but this is only my excuse coming from the bottom of
my heart for being obliged to send you to the sites where you could find
best information. These are:
http://www.4-life.com
http://www.wellnesswatch.net
and the last one from where you could buy these products (please consider
the above excuses) is:
http://www.my4life.com/choice
I hope you'll find this piece of info useful.
Regards,
Michael Balutescu
"doe" wrote in message
news:20040617235246.04124.00000145@mb-m15.aol.com... > Br J Nutr. 2000 Nov;84(5):589-95. Related Articles, Links
>
>
> The role of meat in the expression of rheumatoid arthritis.
>
> Grant WB.
>
> wbgrant@norfolk.infi.net
>
> Rheumatoid arthritis (RA) is characterized by inflammation of the synovial
> tissues in the joints. A number of papers related to dietary components
that > are associated with this inflammation are reviewed. In addition, the
ecological > approach is used to study the links between diet and RA. Multi-country
data for > prevalence of RA for females from eight and fifteen countries were
compared > statistically with components of national dietary supply. Fat from meat
and > offal for the period 2 years before the prevalence data was found to have
the > highest statistical association with the prevalence of RA (r(2) 0.877,
P<0.001 > for eight countries). The statistical correlations for meat and offal were
> almost as high as those for their fat. Similar correlations were found for
> temporal changes in indices of effects of RA in several European countries
> between 1968 and 1978 as more meat was added to the national diets,
although > the correlations were higher for meat than for fat. It is hypothesized
that > meat and offal may be a major factor contributing to the inflammation in
RA. In > the present short review, the author examines some of the data that
associate > meat consumption with RA and the possible factors, e.g. fat, Fe and
nitrite, > which may contribute to the inflammation.
>
> Publication Types:
> Review
> Review Literature
>
> PMID: 11177171 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
> Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking >
>
>
Re: Meat / rheumatoid arthritis -- Posted by Harvey R. Stone on 06-21-04 06:34
"Michael Balutescu" wrote in message
news:40d69061$0$25462$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > Guys, when chemistry is involved is not good. Arthritis is generated by an
> over-active immune system, this means that the body attacks itself.
>
> I suffered terrible pain as well. My left hip and ankle were very stiff
and > when it was to step upstairs always I was bending only the right leg and
the > exercise was still very painful.
>
> I've tried many medicines and nutritional supplements including the ones I
> consider the best in the world (Reliv) but the enhancements were always
> minor and not lasting.
>
> But my research paid off: I discovered the best for my condition, namely
the > best immune system moderator in the world: this is called Transfer Factor
in > combination with a strong anti-oxidant (Choice 50). Well, in only 2 weeks
my > pain disappeared and in one month my joints were as in my youth (I am 60
> now).
>
Many people have the same as you and your story could be a true one but
you may not come here to make money off of people with a story like yours
and you have been reported to your ISPs.
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