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--- Meat / rheumatoid arthritis
>Fe and nitrite, >which may contribute to the inflammation. > >Publication Types: >Review >Review Literature Hmm. How hard did you search for that one? Was waiting for it, ya know? The low carb diet I am on. I do not have any meat with nitrates on the label. Has a section in the Atkins book, about nitrates and the dangers.. I also eat seafood. Like salmon, lobster, shrimp... etc.. I read labels better than I used to. Taught my sons too, how to read the labels. If I buy bacon with nitrates added. I soak it in water for a time, in the fridge, and it removes the nitrates.. I also learned how to make my own yogurt, cheese, and beef jerky. Still learning new stuff as I go along. Do you even know why nitrates are added to certain meats? I eat close to a Paleo/Neanderthin diet. There ya go, kitty lover, check that out.
>Subject: Re: Meat / rheumatoid arthritis >From: sunshyne5108@aol.com (Sunshyne) >Date: 6/17/2004 10:19 PM Mountain Daylight Time >Message-id: <20040618001909.04657.00000136@mb-m10.aol.com> > >>Fe and nitrite, >>which may contribute to the inflammation. >> >>Publication Types: >>Review >>Review Literature > >Hmm. How hard did you search for that one? Was waiting for it, ya know? You were .. ? That just worked Jimdandy .. then .. eh .. > >The low carb diet I am on. I do not have any meat with nitrates on the label. >Has a section in the Atkins book, about nitrates and the dangers.. I also eat >seafood. Like salmon, lobster, shrimp... etc.. That seems to be contrary to the article .. Maybe you should smoke some cigars .. too .. Hell .. maybe you should take up .. bullriding .. > >I read labels better than I used to. Taught my sons too, how to read the >labels. This means you are from the Ozarks .. ? or Ontario .. ? >If I buy bacon with nitrates added. I soak it in water for a time, in >the fridge, and it removes the nitrates.. I also learned how to make my own >yogurt, cheese, and beef jerky. Still learning new stuff as I go along. > >Do you even know why nitrates are added to certain meats? How come .. I don't believe .. YOU . . who only NOW .. have learned to read .. actually KNOW .. the answer ..? > >I eat close to a Paleo/Neanderthin diet. There ya go, kitty lover, check that >out. I think maybe you didn't understand the article .. It says .. "something bad in meat .. something bad in meat .. something bad in meat .. " Br J Nutr. 2000 Nov;84(5):589-95. Related Articles, Links The role of meat in the expression of rheumatoid arthritis. Grant WB. wbgrant@norfolk.infi.net Rheumatoid arthritis (RA) is characterized by inflammation of the synovial tissues in the joints. A number of papers related to dietary components that are associated with this inflammation are reviewed. In addition, the ecological approach is used to study the links between diet and RA. Multi-country data for prevalence of RA for females from eight and fifteen countries were compared statistically with components of national dietary supply. Fat from meat and offal for the period 2 years before the prevalence data was found to have the highest statistical association with the prevalence of RA (r(2) 0.877, P<0.001 for eight countries). The statistical correlations for meat and offal were almost as high as those for their fat. Similar correlations were found for temporal changes in indices of effects of RA in several European countries between 1968 and 1978 as more meat was added to the national diets, although the correlations were higher for meat than for fat. It is hypothesized that meat and offal may be a major factor contributing to the inflammation in RA. In the present short review, the author examines some of the data that associate meat consumption with RA and the possible factors, e.g. fat, Fe and nitrite, which may contribute to the inflammation. Publication Types: Review Review Literature PMID: 11177171 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking
>You were .. ? > >That just worked Jimdandy .. then .. eh .. > Yep, sure did. >> >>The low carb diet I am on. I do not have any meat with nitrates on the >label. >>Has a section in the Atkins book, about nitrates and the dangers.. I also >eat >>seafood. Like salmon, lobster, shrimp... etc.. > >That seems to be contrary to the article .. > >Maybe you should smoke some cigars .. too .. > Nah, its so unwomanly to do that. >Hell .. maybe you should take up .. bullriding .. > Heh, now that sounds like fun. >>I read labels better than I used to. Taught my sons too, how to read the >>labels. > >This means you are from the Ozarks .. ? or Ontario .. ? No, Ohio. >>If I buy bacon with nitrates added. I soak it in water for a time, in >>the fridge, and it removes the nitrates.. I also learned how to make my own >>yogurt, cheese, and beef jerky. Still learning new stuff as I go along. > > >> >>Do you even know why nitrates are added to certain meats? > >How come .. I don't believe .. YOU . . who only NOW .. have learned to read >. I read quite well thank you. >actually KNOW .. the answer ..? > You first, my pleasure. >>I eat close to a Paleo/Neanderthin diet. There ya go, kitty lover, check >that >>out. > >I think maybe you didn't understand the article .. > >It says .. "something bad in meat .. something bad in meat .. something bad >in >meat .. " > Man, you think meat is that bad? You got a crazy thing going on about iron, and now meat? >The role of meat in the expression of rheumatoid arthritis. > Yeah, and I disagree with it. What then? -Be gentle with yourselves, for you are in a process; you are changing, growing, unfolding, and becoming, in manifested form, that which you already are in essence.- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Atkins since 1/17/04 267/209/135 CCLL-40
>Subject: Re: Meat / rheumatoid arthritis >From: sunshyne5108@aol.com (Sunshyne) >Date: 6/18/2004 10:51 AM Mountain Daylight Time >Message-id: <20040618125123.03855.00000117@mb-m19.aol.com> >>The role of meat in the expression of rheumatoid arthritis. >> >Yeah, and I disagree with it. What then? You have a .. steak or a burger or some fish .. and you wash it all down with .. remicade ... And at fifteen thousand a treatment plan .. that burger NOW cost .. about .. 55 bucks.. Enjoy .. Heh .. heh .. Br J Nutr. 2000 Nov;84(5):589-95. Related Articles, Links The role of meat in the expression of rheumatoid arthritis. Grant WB. wbgrant@norfolk.infi.net Rheumatoid arthritis (RA) is characterized by inflammation of the synovial tissues in the joints. A number of papers related to dietary components that are associated with this inflammation are reviewed. In addition, the ecological approach is used to study the links between diet and RA. Multi-country data for prevalence of RA for females from eight and fifteen countries were compared statistically with components of national dietary supply. Fat from meat and offal for the period 2 years before the prevalence data was found to have the highest statistical association with the prevalence of RA (r(2) 0.877, P<0.001 for eight countries). The statistical correlations for meat and offal were almost as high as those for their fat. Similar correlations were found for temporal changes in indices of effects of RA in several European countries between 1968 and 1978 as more meat was added to the national diets, although the correlations were higher for meat than for fat. It is hypothesized that meat and offal may be a major factor contributing to the inflammation in RA. In the present short review, the author examines some of the data that associate meat consumption with RA and the possible factors, e.g. fat, Fe and nitrite, which may contribute to the inflammation. Publication Types: Review Review Literature PMID: 11177171 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking
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