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Arthritis-like conditions and Heart Medication

Re: Arthritis-like conditions and Heart Medication -- Posted by Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD on 08-26-04 04:08

William Wagner wrote:
>
> In article <411e3d86$0$80334$a344fe98@news.wanadoo.nl>,
> "Alex" wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > My mother is suffering from what has been called
> > osteo-arthritis (pain in her shoulder blades that
> > radiates out to her arms, but which becomes less
> > in the course of the day).
> > This is NOT, repeat, NOT a heart attack OR angina.
> > Several doctors have labeled it arthritis.
> >
> > She has had this complaint since three weeks after
> > she started to take heart medications after being diagnosed
> > with a heart attack back in March.
> > She is scheduled for a triple bypass and heart valve
> > surgery in September.
> >
> > So, my question is: are any of the medications
> > listed below associated with arthritis, osteo-arthritis
> > or any kind of joint pain?
> > She also has swollen patches on her right arm,
> > near the elbow joint.
> >
> > The medications in question are:
> >
> > Ascal (which she now no longer takes because of the upcoming operation)
> > Selokeen Zoc (Tratraat Metroprolol)
> > Promocard
> > Rastinan
> > Pantazol
> > Duspatal
> > Lasix
> > Thyrax (for her pre-existing thyroid condition)
> > Lipitor (which she doesn't like and has never taken)
> >
> > So my question is: can any of these medication set off
> > arthritis, or cause joint pain or swelling on elbow joint?
> >
> > She had back trouble before, but never like this.
> >
> > Alex
>
> This popped in today.
>
> THE WALL STREET JOURNAL EUROPE Morning Update
>
> 26 August 2004
> ___________________________________
> TOP STORY
>
> Kaiser Permanente is reconsidering its use of Merck & Co.'s blockbuster
> arthritis medicine Vioxx after a major study of the HMO's patients found
> it may increase the risk of serious heart problems.
>
> William (Bill)
>

The person described in the OP is not reportedly taking Vioxx.

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Re: Arthritis-like conditions and Heart Medication -- Posted by Alex on 08-28-04 11:38

"William Wagner" schreef in bericht
news:NonSpamb2wagner-2665A5.06093926082004@news.snip.net...
> In article <411e3d86$0$80334$a344fe98@news.wanadoo.nl>,
> "Alex" wrote:

> > The medications in question are:
> >
> > Ascal (which she now no longer takes because of the upcoming operation)
> > Selokeen Zoc (Tratraat Metroprolol)
> > Promocard
> > Rastinan
> > Pantazol
> > Duspatal
> > Lasix
> > Thyrax (for her pre-existing thyroid condition)
> > Lipitor (which she doesn't like and has never taken)
> >
> > So my question is: can any of these medication set off
> > arthritis, or cause joint pain or swelling on elbow joint?
> >
> > She had back trouble before, but never like this.
> >
> > Alex
>
>
> This popped in today.
>
> THE WALL STREET JOURNAL EUROPE Morning Update
>
> 26 August 2004
> ___________________________________
> TOP STORY
>
> Kaiser Permanente is reconsidering its use of Merck & Co.'s blockbuster
> arthritis medicine Vioxx after a major study of the HMO's patients found
> it may increase the risk of serious heart problems.
>
>
> William (Bill)

Thanks, at least it makes you think about
unanticipated reactions.

And cross-reactions.

Alex

Re: Arthritis-like conditions and Heart Medication -- Posted by fresh~horses on 08-28-04 16:49

"Alex" wrote in message news:<411e3d86$0$80334$a344fe98@news.wanadoo.nl>...

Alex

An elderly neighbour who is on so many medications--for diabetes 2,
giant cell arteritis and polymyalgia, among other ailments, and
medications for the assorted side effects the first medications
cause--was taken to emergency five times with puzzling attacks. The
last was called a stroke and perhaps the others were strokes too. At
the last event I and the EMT grabbed her medicines bag to take in
with. One thing we found was Ephedra. A herbalist whom she trusted
encouraged her to take it saying it would help with energy. My
understanding is, among other undesirable effects, it changed her
insulin and prednisone requirements.

No one knew she was taking this and other goodies. She hadn't, the
previous times, told her doctors. She knew they wouldn't believe in
them like she did. It was a supplement, and harmless, no? and she
liked and trusted the herbalist; who spent *lots and lots* of time
with her.

She isn't taking ephedra anymore (it's been recalled anyway) but she
is taking other capsules and tonics and teas made especially for her.
I don't think she tells her doctors.

You might ask your mom, or check your mom's medicine cabinet. One
thing that comes to mind is herbal cholesterol lowering supplements.
Red yeast rice is widely thought to be quite innocent, for example,
but has the same chemical base as the original statins. It is
available as an ingredient in many cholesterol lowering supplements
under many brand names, differing from country to country. (Not sure
where you are.)

It could cause muscle pain, joint pain, weakness and atrophy.

Just a thought. Never can tell....

Zee

> Hi,
>
> My mother is suffering from what has been called
> osteo-arthritis (pain in her shoulder blades that
> radiates out to her arms, but which becomes less
> in the course of the day).
> This is NOT, repeat, NOT a heart attack OR angina.
> Several doctors have labeled it arthritis.
>
> She has had this complaint since three weeks after
> she started to take heart medications after being diagnosed
> with a heart attack back in March.
> She is scheduled for a triple bypass and heart valve
> surgery in September.
>
> So, my question is: are any of the medications
> listed below associated with arthritis, osteo-arthritis
> or any kind of joint pain?
> She also has swollen patches on her right arm,
> near the elbow joint.
>
> The medications in question are:
>
> Ascal (which she now no longer takes because of the upcoming operation)
> Selokeen Zoc (Tratraat Metroprolol)
> Promocard
> Rastinan
> Pantazol
> Duspatal
> Lasix
> Thyrax (for her pre-existing thyroid condition)
> Lipitor (which she doesn't like and has never taken)
>
> So my question is: can any of these medication set off
> arthritis, or cause joint pain or swelling on elbow joint?
>
> She had back trouble before, but never like this.
>
> Alex

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