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--- Diagnosed with Gout. Help required!
On 15 Aug 2004 11:25:26 -0700, fwali@cyber.net.pk (Faisal Waqar Ali) wrote: >Hello, > >Just visited a new doc. Fed up with the last one. Well, this one >diagnosed gout instead of sero-neagtive RA. I agree with this >diagnosis more as my uric acids are always elevated. Just wondering >though that i dont exhibit any of the classical symptoms like pain in >the big toe etc. I discussed this with doc but he said that its not >necessary that these symptoms always show up. Anyway have been >prescribed a variety of NSAIDS like Vioxx and Distalgesic in addition >to Allopurinol and a multivitamin. Lets hope this works. > >Anyway i need more info about Gout, its symptoms, treatments, risks >etc. Please let me know any good informative websites. > >Also i would love to hear from people who have suffered from this >disease. > >Thanks! Hello Faisal in Pakistan, Have a look at this http://www.arc.org.uk/about_arth/booklets/6015/6015.htm -- Andy
> > Also i would love to hear from people who have suffered from this > disease. > Hi, I'm a newbie and this is my first post, but I do have gout. I am the rare pre-menopausal female with gout. I do have the typical big toe pain from time to time, and it is very painful. My main symptom is recurrent kidney stones (uric acid stones)...has your doc done a 24 urine on you? If you start having kidney symptoms, that may be helpful. I take allopurinol, Bextra, and see a rhuematologist and nephrologist...(but there are other health issues, like Lupus). I have learned...go straight to the doc if you have an attack. I thought I would wait it out...well silly me...there is medicine they will give that will give you relief speedily. Watch your diet. My last attack was after a BBQ Brisket 3 day binge during Memorial day holiday...I will NOT be doing that again. And drink LOTS of water (not soda or tea) to help your kidneys flush out the uric acid. Once I started on the allopurinol the kidney stones have slowed down and my toe pain has only occurred during that holiday. Well, I hope this helps. I have lots of male family members with gout and can easily see how caring for yourself makes a difference. My father takes great care of himself and does what he is supposed to concerning his gout and now seldom has an attack, and yet my uncle suffers nearly daily and is almost unable to walk due to the fact he refuses help for his gout. Thought I would share, Janet
>Subject: Re: Diagnosed with Gout. Help required! >From: "Janet R" doubloony@hotmail.com >Date: 8/15/2004 6:49 PM Mountain Daylight Time >Message-id: >my uncle suffers nearly daily and is >almost unable to walk due to the fact he refuses help for his gout. < yearly blood donation is recommended < Med Hypotheses. 1999 Nov;53(5):407-12. Related Articles, Links Effect of gradual accumulation of iron, molybdenum and sulfur, slow depletion of zinc and copper, ethanol or fructose ingestion and phlebotomy in gout. Johnson S. Gout affects mostly males over 40 years old and, occasionally, postmenopausal women. This pattern coincides with the pattern of iron accumulation. On the other hand, menstruating women are seldom afflicted by gout, because the monthly blood loss causes them to accumulate iron to a much lesser degree. Gout involves seven aspects: (1) uric acid overproduction from increased purines in the diet; (2) uric acid overproduction from ATP degradation; (3) uric acid overproduction from increased de novo synthesis of purines; (4) uric acid overproduction from increased DNA breakdown from cell damage; (5) decreased uric acid elimination, caused by molybdenum and sulfur binding to copper in the kidneys; (6) precipitation of sodium urate-iron crystals in the joints due to high ferritin and saturated transferrin and low CuZn-SOD and Cu-thionein in the joint; (7) development of inflammation, triggered by tyrosine bonding to the sodium-urate-iron crystals and being transformed by tyrosine kinase. Alcohol and iron greatly affect most of these aspects. Therefore, phlebotomy is suggested as therapy for gout patients, in order to eliminate the accumulated Fe. Furthermore, yearly blood donation is recommended for males with a family history of gout, so as to prevent Fe accumulation and avoid gout. PMID: 10616042 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking
"Faisal Waqar Ali" news:58ac7d54.0408151025.523312a6@posting.google.com... > Hello, > > Just visited a new doc. Fed up with the last one. Well, this one > diagnosed gout instead of sero-neagtive RA. I agree with this > diagnosis more as my uric acids are always elevated. Just wondering > though that i dont exhibit any of the classical symptoms like pain in > the big toe etc. I discussed this with doc but he said that its not > necessary that these symptoms always show up. Anyway have been > prescribed a variety of NSAIDS like Vioxx and Distalgesic in addition > to Allopurinol and a multivitamin. Lets hope this works. > > Anyway i need more info about Gout, its symptoms, treatments, risks > etc. Please let me know any good informative websites. > > Also i would love to hear from people who have suffered from this > disease. > > Thanks! Hi,,,, Here is information from a past post in this newsgroup. Gareth Slee wrote: > I'm a 41 year old male suffering as I write yet another gout attack. > > I seem to be getting attacks every few months and it's getting worse. > I've tried allpurinol but I suffer stomach problems and just can't take it. > > Someone suggested taking a spoon of Bicarbonate of Soda in a > glass of water every day? > Anyone heard of this as a preventive measure? From the Arthritis Foundation: In gout, certain chemical processes in the body are out of control. One of these affects uric acid, a normal waster product that comes from the breakdown of substances called purines, which are found in many foods as well as in all the cells of the body. Uric acid usually circulates in the blood until it is passed into urine through the kidneys. People with gout have too much uric acid in their blood, a condition called hyperuricemia. The uric acid changes into crystals (urate crystals) that deposit in joints and other tissues. Some of these crystals may then then fall from the joint lining into the fluid-filled space within the joint or else form in the joint fluid itself. These free urate crystams trigger a severe inflammatory reaction, the accute attack of gout arthritis. An attack can be triggered by drinking or eating too much, by surgery, by "crash" diets, and occasionally by trauma to a joint. Uric acid crystals can collect in the urine, forming gravel or stones. This development happens most often in people who pass too little fluid from thier bodies. People with gout may ahve high blood pressure or kidney infections, both of which can cause kidney damage. Thus, the physician must watch for the teltale signs of such damage and begin proper treatment if necessary. MEDICATION Three kinds of medication are used in treating gout. One catagory (Colchicine, and certain NAISDs) controls the inflammation, A second catagory, uricosuric agents, increased the body's ability to eliminate uric acid by way of the urine, thus lowering the amount of uric acid in the blood. The third kind of medication (allopurinol) decreases uric acid levels in the blood by reducing the rate at which the body produces it. DIET Myths abound concering the relationship between diet and gout. HERE ARE THE FACTS: 1. A person who is overweight should develop a weight-loss program under a doctor's supervision. The person should not fast or try to diet too severily. 2. Because a few foods tend to raise the uric acid level in the blood, a doctor may caution a person with gout to avoid eating them. These foods include organ meats such as kidneys, liver, and sweetbreads, as well as sardines, anchovies and meat extracts. 3. A person with gout does NOT need to avoid coffee and tea. Alcohol consumed in moderation (i.e., about two ounces of hard liquor, a can of beer, or a glass of wine per day) is permitted. 4. A high daily intake of non-alcoholic fluids is recommended (a minimum of two quarts). RELATIVE PURINE CONTENT OF COMMON FOODS GROUP A: (Foods with a high purine concentration) Liver Gravies Sweetbreads Broths Mussels Fish roe Anchovies Kidney Sardines Brains Herring Heart GROUP B: (Foods with a moderate purine concentration) Meats Peas Lentils Mushrooms Yeast Beans Spinish Cauliflower Fowl Fish Asperagus Whole grain cereals GROUP C: (Foods with negligible amounts of purine) Fruits Milk Cheese Eggs Spices and condiments (including salt and vinegar) Refined cereals and cereal products Butter and fats (in moderation) Nuts Sugar and sweets Clear vegetable soups Vegetables (except as noted above)
"Harvey R. Stone" > "Faisal Waqar Ali" > news:58ac7d54.0408151025.523312a6@posting.google.com... > > Hello, > > > > Just visited a new doc. Fed up with the last one. Well, this one > > diagnosed gout instead of sero-neagtive RA. I agree with this > > diagnosis more as my uric acids are always elevated. Just wondering > > though that i dont exhibit any of the classical symptoms like pain in > > the big toe etc. I discussed this with doc but he said that its not > > necessary that these symptoms always show up. Anyway have been > > prescribed a variety of NSAIDS like Vioxx and Distalgesic in addition > > to Allopurinol and a multivitamin. Lets hope this works. > > > > Anyway i need more info about Gout, its symptoms, treatments, risks > > etc. Please let me know any good informative websites. > > > > Also i would love to hear from people who have suffered from this > > disease. > > > > Thanks! > > Hi,,,, Here is information from a past post in this newsgroup. > > Gareth Slee wrote: > > > I'm a 41 year old male suffering as I write yet another gout attack. > > > > I seem to be getting attacks every few months and it's getting worse. > > I've tried allpurinol but I suffer stomach problems and just can't take > it. > > > > Someone suggested taking a spoon of Bicarbonate of Soda in a > > glass of water every day? > > Anyone heard of this as a preventive measure? > > > > From the Arthritis Foundation: > > > In gout, certain chemical processes in the body are out of control. > One of these affects uric acid, a normal waster product that comes > from the breakdown of substances called purines, which are found in > many foods as well as in all the cells of the body. > > Uric acid usually circulates in the blood until it is passed into > urine through the kidneys. People with gout have too much uric acid > in their blood, a condition called hyperuricemia. The uric acid > changes into crystals (urate crystals) that deposit in joints and > other tissues. > > Some of these crystals may then then fall from the joint lining into > the fluid-filled space within the joint or else form in the joint > fluid itself. > > These free urate crystams trigger a severe inflammatory reaction, > the accute attack of gout arthritis. An attack can be triggered by > drinking or eating too much, by surgery, by "crash" diets, and > occasionally by trauma to a joint. > > Uric acid crystals can collect in the urine, forming gravel or stones. > This development happens most often in people who pass too little > fluid from thier bodies. People with gout may ahve high blood > pressure or kidney infections, both of which can cause kidney damage. > Thus, the physician must watch for the teltale signs of such damage > and begin proper treatment if necessary. > > MEDICATION > > Three kinds of medication are used in treating gout. One catagory > (Colchicine, and certain NAISDs) controls the inflammation, A second > catagory, uricosuric agents, increased the body's ability to eliminate > uric acid by way of the urine, thus lowering the amount of uric acid > in the blood. The third kind of medication (allopurinol) decreases > uric acid levels in the blood by reducing the rate at which the body > produces it. > > DIET > > Myths abound concering the relationship between diet and gout. > HERE ARE THE FACTS: > > 1. A person who is overweight should develop a weight-loss > program under a doctor's supervision. The person should not > fast or try to diet too severily. > 2. Because a few foods tend to raise the uric acid level in the > blood, a doctor may caution a person with gout to avoid > eating them. These foods include organ meats such as kidneys, > liver, and sweetbreads, as well as sardines, anchovies and meat > extracts. > 3. A person with gout does NOT need to avoid coffee and tea. > Alcohol consumed in moderation (i.e., about two ounces of hard > liquor, a can of beer, or a glass of wine per day) is permitted. > 4. A high daily intake of non-alcoholic fluids is recommended (a > minimum of two quarts). > > > > > RELATIVE PURINE CONTENT OF COMMON FOODS > > GROUP A: (Foods with a high purine concentration) > Liver Gravies Sweetbreads Broths > Mussels Fish roe Anchovies Kidney > Sardines Brains Herring Heart > > GROUP B: (Foods with a moderate purine concentration) > Meats Peas Lentils Mushrooms > Yeast Beans Spinish Cauliflower > Fowl Fish Asperagus Whole grain cereals > > GROUP C: (Foods with negligible amounts of purine) > Fruits Milk Cheese Eggs > Spices and condiments (including salt and vinegar) > Refined cereals and cereal products > Butter and fats (in moderation) Nuts > Sugar and sweets Clear vegetable soups > Vegetables (except as noted above) Try the Isagenix Cleanse and Rejuvenation System. 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