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Ayurvedic woes raise new questions about drug agency oversight

Re: Ayurvedic woes raise new questions about drug agency oversight -- Posted by pund kamath on 10-06-04 05:53

bdixit wrote in message news:<4162D8B9.2272FA3E@pitt.edu>...
> I am a professor of pharmacology for real
...
I don't doubt your qualifications Professor Sahib.

There have been wonderful and very effective Aurvedic herbal medicine
and their application in my younger days. I remember a medication that
was derived from some Aurvedic plants is an example. that was very
effective as mood stabilizer without any side effects. No body has
ever heard of it nowadays. Now the new practioners are not trained in
methodical observation, collection of data, correlation of dosage,
even identification of plants etc. In other words the proper rsearch
mind-set and methodology etc are simply not taught nor imbued in
medical rsearchers or practioners! . It is sad.

Factories are set in wilderness in Karnataka for instance where they
pack 'stuff' in shiny bottles claiming all sort of beneficial cures.
It is the profit that matters.

So I wish you all the best in educating the public and society in
their awareness here in N>America as well as in Hindustan.

Re: Ayurvedic woes raise new questions about drug agency oversight -- Posted by harmony on 10-06-04 09:31

"bdixit" wrote in message
news:4162D8B9.2272FA3E@pitt.edu...
> I am a professor of pharmacology for real. I have been at the
> University of Pittsburgh for more than 40 yr. teaching pharmacology and
> other related areas. I have interest in various medicinal systems such
> as Ayurveda, Chinese medicine, Egyptian medicine, Medieval Humoral
> system of medicine etc. We had a fairly large research program one time
> in which many plant based medicines from various areas of the world were
> investigated from chemical and pharmacological points of views. That
> research is no longer active for various reasons. So I keep up with the
> literature on this topic as well as on other topics of interest in
> pharmacology.

so, you are not a researcher, right? only a reader, right?

> I am particularly concerned with the introduction of
> several Ayurvedic medicines as "nutritional supplements" into American
> market by those who want to cash in on outlandish claims hope that
> answers your question.

give us specifics of ayurvedic medicines of your concern that affect the
american market. (not the indian market). pls don't post links of long
articles; give us excerpts from your sources that trouble you.

(i am fully aware of allegations made against chinese medicine imports.)

......Balwant Dixit
>

Re: Ayurvedic woes raise new questions about drug agency oversight -- Posted by Dr. Jai Maharaj on 10-06-04 11:59

In article <10m87dfcegbbn77@corp.supernews.com>,
"harmony" posted:
>
> "bdixit" wrote in message
> news:4162D8B9.2272FA3E@pitt.edu...
> > I am a professor of pharmacology for real. I have been at the
> > University of Pittsburgh for more than 40 yr. teaching pharmacology and
> > other related areas. I have interest in various medicinal systems such
> > as Ayurveda, Chinese medicine, Egyptian medicine, Medieval Humoral
> > system of medicine etc. We had a fairly large research program one time
> > in which many plant based medicines from various areas of the world were
> > investigated from chemical and pharmacological points of views. That
> > research is no longer active for various reasons. So I keep up with the
> > literature on this topic as well as on other topics of interest in
> > pharmacology.
>
> so, you are not a researcher, right? only a reader, right?

This Dixit guy has had no training in Ayurved. He is not
a scientific person because he publishes conclusions about
something without studying it.

> > I am particularly concerned with the introduction of
> > several Ayurvedic medicines as "nutritional supplements" into American
> > market by those who want to cash in on outlandish claims hope that
> > answers your question.

> give us specifics of ayurvedic medicines of your concern that affect the
> american market. (not the indian market). pls don't post links of long
> articles; give us excerpts from your sources that trouble you.
>
> (i am fully aware of allegations made against chinese medicine imports.)

I don't think that Dixit realizes that numerous western
medicines have inflicted great harm on the American population,
and that many have been recalled. Also, he doesn't seem to know
that even western medicines -- about 70-80 percent of them -- are
also based on herbs and plants.

Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti

Re: Ayurvedic woes raise new questions about drug agency oversight -- Posted by harmony on 10-07-04 10:25

bd, the beady eyed wannabe doctor, brings his anti-hindu hateful politics to
medicine.
reminds me of a scene of a doc joining kkk just to hear acclamation of
idiots to whom he gave speeches.

"Dr. Jai Maharaj" wrote in message
news:kmN7B79qLyN2@wY286G2zVIuxwW...
> In article <10m87dfcegbbn77@corp.supernews.com>,
> "harmony" posted:
> >
> > "bdixit" wrote in message
> > news:4162D8B9.2272FA3E@pitt.edu...
> > > I am a professor of pharmacology for real. I have been at the
> > > University of Pittsburgh for more than 40 yr. teaching pharmacology
and
> > > other related areas. I have interest in various medicinal systems
such
> > > as Ayurveda, Chinese medicine, Egyptian medicine, Medieval Humoral
> > > system of medicine etc. We had a fairly large research program one
time
> > > in which many plant based medicines from various areas of the world
were
> > > investigated from chemical and pharmacological points of views. That
> > > research is no longer active for various reasons. So I keep up with
the
> > > literature on this topic as well as on other topics of interest in
> > > pharmacology.
> >
> > so, you are not a researcher, right? only a reader, right?
>
> This Dixit guy has had no training in Ayurved. He is not
> a scientific person because he publishes conclusions about
> something without studying it.
>
> > > I am particularly concerned with the introduction of
> > > several Ayurvedic medicines as "nutritional supplements" into
American
> > > market by those who want to cash in on outlandish claims hope that
> > > answers your question.
>
> > give us specifics of ayurvedic medicines of your concern that affect the
> > american market. (not the indian market). pls don't post links of long
> > articles; give us excerpts from your sources that trouble you.
> >
> > (i am fully aware of allegations made against chinese medicine imports.)
>
> I don't think that Dixit realizes that numerous western
> medicines have inflicted great harm on the American population,
> and that many have been recalled. Also, he doesn't seem to know
> that even western medicines -- about 70-80 percent of them -- are
> also based on herbs and plants.
>
> Jai Maharaj
> http://www.mantra.com/jai
> Om Shanti

Re: Ayurvedic woes raise new questions about drug agency oversight -- Posted by Dr. Jai Maharaj on 10-07-04 12:56

In article <10mauu05d1hc542@corp.supernews.com>,
"harmony" posted:
> bd, the beady eyed wannabe doctor, brings his anti-hindu hateful politics to
> medicine.
> reminds me of a scene of a doc joining kkk just to hear acclamation of
> idiots to whom he gave speeches.

Perhaps Dixit is a frustrated campus employee who finds
access to the Internet when he's cleaning the offices.

Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <10m87dfcegbbn77@corp.supernews.com>,
> > "harmony" posted:
> > >
> > > "bdixit" wrote in message
> > > news:4162D8B9.2272FA3E@pitt.edu...
> > > > I am a professor of pharmacology for real. I have been at the
> > > > University of Pittsburgh for more than 40 yr. teaching pharmacology
> and
> > > > other related areas. I have interest in various medicinal systems
> such
> > > > as Ayurveda, Chinese medicine, Egyptian medicine, Medieval Humoral
> > > > system of medicine etc. We had a fairly large research program one
> time
> > > > in which many plant based medicines from various areas of the world
> were
> > > > investigated from chemical and pharmacological points of views. That
> > > > research is no longer active for various reasons. So I keep up with
> the
> > > > literature on this topic as well as on other topics of interest in
> > > > pharmacology.
> > >
> > > so, you are not a researcher, right? only a reader, right?
> >
> > This Dixit guy has had no training in Ayurved. He is not
> > a scientific person because he publishes conclusions about
> > something without studying it.
> >
> > > > I am particularly concerned with the introduction of
> > > > several Ayurvedic medicines as "nutritional supplements" into
> American
> > > > market by those who want to cash in on outlandish claims hope that
> > > > answers your question.
> >
> > > give us specifics of ayurvedic medicines of your concern that affect the
> > > american market. (not the indian market). pls don't post links of long
> > > articles; give us excerpts from your sources that trouble you.
> > >
> > > (i am fully aware of allegations made against chinese medicine imports.)
> >
> > I don't think that Dixit realizes that numerous western
> > medicines have inflicted great harm on the American population,
> > and that many have been recalled. Also, he doesn't seem to know
> > that even western medicines -- about 70-80 percent of them -- are
> > also based on herbs and plants.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj
> > http://www.mantra.com/jai
> > Om Shanti

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