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What's the best source of info on Acid/Alkaline affects of food?


Re: What's the best source of info on Acid/Alkaline affects of food? -- Posted by ship on 03-31-05 08:32



DrC

I just searched for that book on Amazon:

>>>
Foods That Alkalinize and Heal
~Mary C. Hogle
Mokelumne Hill Pr
Paperback - December 1, 1993
Usually dispatched within 1 to 2 working days
>>>

1993 that's rather out of date, no?
And that appears to be the only book Mary Hogle wrote...

Is there any SCIENTIFIC evidence for this acid/alkaline impact
theory. I have to say I find it strange to say the least that
a spot of cooking can suddenly transform an alkaline-forming
food into an acid-forming food! What is the biochemistry for this?

Either way what I want to know is whether there is any HARD scientific
evidence of this acid vs alkaline-forming foods debate being true.

And secondly whether there is any resource that quantifies these
different foods accurately

And thirdly whether any of this is available to the world (for free)
on the Web!


Ship
Shiperton Henethe


Re: What's the best source of info on Acid/Alkaline affects of food? -- Posted by Robert on 03-31-05 10:55



"ship" wrote in message
news:1112286737.976510.61910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> DrC

>
> I just searched for that book on Amazon:

>
> >>>

> Foods That Alkalinize and Heal
> ~Mary C. Hogle
> Mokelumne Hill Pr
> Paperback - December 1, 1993
> Usually dispatched within 1 to 2 working days
> >>>
>
> 1993 that's rather out of date, no?

> And that appears to be the only book Mary Hogle wrote..

Out of date? LOL

It is a stand alone work years ahead of it's time. That's why there are no
recent editions.
The other definitive works on diet comflicts with the ABO blood type diet.
Both world renown authors are in conflict which is why we are all confused
in the medical world.
.
>
> Is there any SCIENTIFIC evidence for this acid/alkaline impact

> theory. I have to say I find it strange to say the least that
> a spot of cooking can suddenly transform an alkaline-forming
> food into an acid-forming food! What is the biochemistry for this?
>
> Either way what I want to know is whether there is any HARD scientific

> evidence of this acid vs alkaline-forming foods debate being true.
>
> And secondly whether there is any resource that quantifies these

> different foods accurately
>
> And thirdly whether any of this is available to the world (for free)

> on the Web!
>
>

> Ship
> Shiperton Henethe
>



Re: What's the best source of info on Acid/Alkaline affects of food? -- Posted by Mark Thorson on 03-31-05 12:34


Robert wrote:

> "ship" wrote in message
> news:1112286737.976510.61910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > I just searched for that book on Amazon:
> >
> > Foods That Alkalinize and Heal
> > ~Mary C. Hogle
> > Mokelumne Hill Pr
> > Paperback - December 1, 1993
> > Usually dispatched within 1 to 2 working days
> >
> > 1993 that's rather out of date, no?
> > And that appears to be the only book Mary Hogle wrote..
>
> Out of date? LOL

>
> It is a stand alone work years ahead of it's time. That's why

> there are no recent editions.

And it's not 1993. The revised third edition
was published in 1935, under the original title
_Build_Up_With_Foods_That_Alkalinize_and_Heal_.
The 1937 edition shortened the title to
_Foods_That_Alkalinize_and_Heal_.

I don't know when the first edition was published.

The 1993 printing from Mokelumne Hill is
a reprint edition -- that publisher has reprinted
many early books of "alternative" medicine
and science.





Re: What's the best source of info on Acid/Alkaline affects of food? -- Posted by drceephd2@netscape.com on 03-31-05 11:36



ship wrote:
> DrC
>
> I just searched for that book on Amazon:

>
> >>>

> Foods That Alkalinize and Heal
> ~Mary C. Hogle
> Mokelumne Hill Pr
> Paperback - December 1, 1993
> Usually dispatched within 1 to 2 working days
> >>>
>
> 1993 that's rather out of date, no?


When is the truth ever out of date? I think that an apple falling from
a tree still falls down to the ground and not up to the sky. Is the
earth round or flat? Does the sun circle the earth or does the earth
circle the sun?

> And that appears to be the only book Mary Hogle wrote...

So what?

> Is there any SCIENTIFIC evidence for this acid/alkaline impact
> theory.
There is over 100 years of credible scientific and medical evidence
for the acid/alkaline impact on human and animal health. However, you
have to search the orthopathic literature as I have.

You do not seem to be aware that there was, and still is, two medical
theories in the USA.
You have the allopathic medical model based upon the medical monopoly's
theory of drugs and the psuedo scientic use of those drug models to
cure disease.
There is also the orthopathic medical model based upon the concept that
only the living organism can heal itself and that there are no cures,
i.e., you simply cannot force the sick to heal by giving them poisons
to control some symptoms.

I find the orthopathic medical model to be credible, scientific,
medically correct, and easily understandable by anyone willing to think
for themselves. That said, the last medical school teaching orthopathy
was shut down by the medical monopoly in 1908. Do you really think
that I or anyone can today produce "scientific" evidence in total
opposition to the wishes of the medical monopoly?

I have to say I find it strange to say the least that
> a spot of cooking can suddenly transform an alkaline-forming
> food into an acid-forming food! What is the biochemistry for this?

It is called thermal decomposition, pyrolization, and accelerated
oxygen degration. The browning of meat is the cedompostion of the
amino acids in the protein. The smell of cabbage cooking is the odor
of the sulfur bearing amino acids decomposing.

You can feed a wild carnivore fresh meat and it will thrive. You can
feed a wild carnivore cooked meat and it will die. Why?

Many animals in the wild will eat only freshly caught meat.
Many animals in the wild will die before eating cooked foods. Why?

The worst thing you can do is feed your pet cat or dog your table
scraps. Why? They will develop heart disease, cancer, cataracts,
arthritis, and diabetes the same as you. Why?

True scientific evidence is supposed to explain for us why the things
we see happen really happens. Science is supposed to support and
explain the truth, not make truths.

> Either way what I want to know is whether there is any HARD
scientific
> evidence of this acid vs alkaline-forming foods debate being true.

It may be hard to come by but there is some somewhere.


>
> And secondly whether there is any resource that quantifies these

> different foods accurately

Try the US department of Agriculture and their analyses of the mineral
ash content of foods. There is another hygienic book which quantifies
these properties, but I do not recall his name or the book title at
this time.

>
> And thirdly whether any of this is available to the world (for free)

> on the Web!

Try the soil and health library. And please donate to help his cause.
Freedom and information is not cheap.
>
>
> Ship
> Shiperton Henethe

DrC PhD


Re: What's the best source of info on Acid/Alkaline affects of food? -- Posted by Robert on 03-31-05 13:22



wrote in message
news:1112297804.151435.155510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> ship wrote:

> > DrC
> >
> > I just searched for that book on Amazon:
> >
> > >>>
> > Foods That Alkalinize and Heal
> > ~Mary C. Hogle
> > Mokelumne Hill Pr
> > Paperback - December 1, 1993
> > Usually dispatched within 1 to 2 working days
> > >>>
> >
> > 1993 that's rather out of date, no?
>
> When is the truth ever out of date? I think that an apple falling from

> a tree still falls down to the ground and not up to the sky. Is the
> earth round or flat? Does the sun circle the earth or does the earth
> circle the sun?
>
> > And that appears to be the only book Mary Hogle wrote...

>
> So what?

>
> > Is there any SCIENTIFIC evidence for this acid/alkaline impact

> > theory.
> There is over 100 years of credible scientific and medical evidence
> for the acid/alkaline impact on human and animal health. However, you
> have to search the orthopathic literature as I have.
There are many, many references about acid base disorders in the literature.

>
> You do not seem to be aware that there was, and still is, two medical

> theories in the USA.
> You have the allopathic medical model based upon the medical monopoly's
> theory of drugs and the psuedo scientic use of those drug models to
> cure disease.
> There is also the orthopathic medical model based upon the concept that
> only the living organism can heal itself and that there are no cures,
> i.e., you simply cannot force the sick to heal by giving them poisons
> to control some symptoms.
>
> I find the orthopathic medical model to be credible, scientific,

> medically correct, and easily understandable by anyone willing to think
> for themselves. That said, the last medical school teaching orthopathy
> was shut down by the medical monopoly in 1908. Do you really think
> that I or anyone can today produce "scientific" evidence in total
> opposition to the wishes of the medical monopoly?

Of course not. That must be why. When there is a lack of evidence it must be
because of the oppositions conspiracy.

>
> I have to say I find it strange to say the least that

> > a spot of cooking can suddenly transform an alkaline-forming
> > food into an acid-forming food! What is the biochemistry for this?
>
> It is called thermal decomposition, pyrolization, and accelerated

> oxygen degration. The browning of meat is the cedompostion of the
> amino acids in the protein. The smell of cabbage cooking is the odor
> of the sulfur bearing amino acids decomposing.
>
> You can feed a wild carnivore fresh meat and it will thrive. You can

> feed a wild carnivore cooked meat and it will die. Why?
pH?
I like my proven theory better and that is if you eat an alkaline food the
stomach acid must be produced in order to balance the acid. Classic Acid
base chemcial reactions, but the body over compsensates and produces too
much acid as happens with many protein loads. You get hyperacidity in the
long run.
I will publish a book and sell it so I don't want to give out all the
details but it cures ulcers, cancer, bone calcium deficits and anything else
I can tie acid base reactions to.
I don't have any proof because of the main stream medical conspiracy.



Re: What's the best source of info on Acid/Alkaline affects of food? -- Posted by Alf Christophersen on 03-31-05 20:40


On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:22:51 -0800, "Robert"
wrote:

>
>> There is over 100 years of credible scientific and medical evidence

>> for the acid/alkaline impact on human and animal health. However, you
>> have to search the orthopathic literature as I have.
>There are many, many references about acid base disorders in the literature.

Orthopathic acid/alkaline theory is not concerning pH of anything in
body, but is a representation of some kind of state of mind.

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