 |  |
 |  |  | |||||||
|
--- What's the best source of info on Acid/Alkaline affects of food?
Don't worry. If your kidneys are working well, you don;'t have to worry about the acidity of food. Your kidneys excrete more acid, as needed. Here is some info about how urine and saliva pH testing is bogus: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Tests/reams.html Jeff
Jeff Although I have a BSc (hons) in Animal Science I know very little about this subject... but yes it's pretty *obvious* that any complex organism would be able to regulate its own pH - and the obvious way to do this would be by excretion - such as through the kidneys. But that is almost like stating a blind truism. The question is that over longer periods of time does eating a diet of one sort or another lead to long-term effects - such as calcification or de-calcification of the bones. Clearly testing the pH of an excretion organ would product very spurious results - it would mainly tell you what you had been eating lately. One could possibly test the pH of one's blood, though again that is unlikely to tell us anything very significant unless one did numerous tests over numerous days. Plus you would need a very sensitive pH meter I suspect as any variations are likely to be small. Nonetheless it is theoretically possible that after sustained incorrect diet that the pH of the blood my eventually become measurably "wrong". But it would be complicated by such things as disolved CO2 content and lactic acid/urea etc - so perhaps it might be better to measure other indicators... Incidentally if the body is so good at regulating its pH what is the chemical messenger (ie hormone) that tells the kidneys whether to extreme more or less adicic/alkaline ions (H+ ions?) ... Ship Shiperton Henethe
ship wrote: > Jeff > > Although I have a BSc (hons) in Animal Science I know very little about > this subject... but yes it's pretty *obvious* that any complex organism > would be able to regulate its own pH - and the obvious way to do this > would be by excretion - such as through the kidneys. > > But that is almost like stating a blind truism. The allopaths know and are taught about acidosis and alkalinosis, but this only has to do with abberations in the blood pH which can have immediate and dire consequenses. The allopaths the ADA nutritionists are not taught anything about the acid/alkaline quality of food and the short term and long term effects. > > The question is that over longer periods of time does eating a diet of > one sort or another lead to long-term effects - such as calcification > or de-calcification of the bones. Why are we just now finding out and reporting that osteoporosis begins around 25 when it has been known that it begins around age 25 for over 100 years? This is the long term decalcification, or more properly, the demineralization of the bones due to an overly acidic diet and lifestyle. The concept that a female would reach menopause and suddenly lose 60-70 % of her bone density due to hormone variations is bogus and fraudulet, but nothing new for the allopathic medical mind. > > Clearly testing the pH of an excretion organ would product very > spurious results - it would mainly tell you what you had been eating > lately. The kindneys and the urine can respond within hours. It is a convenient way to control some bacterial infections and even dissolve some kidney stones caused by an overly acidic urine. > One could possibly test the pH of one's blood, though again that is > unlikely to tell us anything very significant unless one did numerous > tests over numerous days. Plus you would need a very sensitive pH meter > I suspect as any variations are likely to be small. It has been tried but even when measured to say 7.400 pH units, it will not provide you with useable diagnostic information. > > Nonetheless it is theoretically possible that after sustained incorrect > diet that the pH of the blood my eventually become measurably "wrong". It does happen upon occasion, but you are one sick puppy if it happens. > > But it would be complicated by such things as disolved CO2 content and > lactic acid/urea etc - so perhaps it might be better to measure other > indicators... > > Incidentally if the body is so good at regulating its pH what is the > chemical messenger (ie hormone) that tells the kidneys whether to > extreme more or less adicic/alkaline ions (H+ ions?) ... The blood has the phosphate buffer, the carbonate/bicarbonate, minerals, and proteins to use to buffer the blood. The bones and tissues will suffer long before any change will be allowed to show in the blood. Try reading Foods that alkalinize and heal by Hogle, available at Amazon or Healthresearchbooks. Basically all fresh fruits and veggies are alkaline. All cooked foods and most grains are acidic. Spelt and millet are alkaline. All fresh nuts but two are acidic. You need a balance of alkaline and acidic for health. > Ship > > Shiperton Henethe DrC PhD
Hi Ship, Why don't you buy THE book and do some macrobiotic dieting and let us know how you do with it? Less meat equals less P for me as it means less fat/arachidonic acid/ omega-6's etc. Oh and ACID! Not LSD but regular! You could give your demographics, onset age, duration, severity, family members/P, etc before and after. Then be a macobiotic psoriatic for some period of time. http://www.google.com/search?tab=gw&q=acid%2Falkaline%20herman%20aihara&hl=en& It may be dated a bit. But i'm sure many are happy with it. :) Others.... may...not! And if it doesn't give you any bang for your efforts you could supplement with NAC, IP-6, selenium, magnesium, ALCAR and fix the colon with wit kit ( www.thewholewhey.com ) and supplement with the proflora whey etc. Stand on your head, wiggle your ears and jump uP and down. Here's a new improved food idea, University of Michigan Food Pyramid http://www.med.umich.edu/umim/clinical/pyramid/index.htm Or is it all that new? Did hunter/gatherers live the pyramid? Some folks today could find a reason from it to be a fruitarian. But not for long. ;-0 But Great....grand dad/ma lived the feast or famine triP. And our genes plus the P ones :( came from them. And that may be a better diet to correct flucuations in the pH of your diet then changing what goes into the mouth! Quanity and quality certainly could be considered. I can't stop thinking of one person right now close to death due to NO water/food. :( Certainly most of us could eat a lot less. At any rate there are more technical terms for you to play around with here. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.support.skin-diseases.psoriasis/search?group=alt.support.skin-diseases.psoriasis&q=orac&qt_g=1 If this link above breaks use this next one and read the ones from this group only, http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=orac+psoriasis If this one breaks stick p r a l (altogether of course) into the p ng box and do it yourself, http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.support.skin-diseases.psoriasis/search?group=alt.support.skin-diseases.psoriasis&q=pral&qt_g=1 Sure you could kill yourself with the fork. Provided your gut isn't connected to your brain. Or your into hedonism. Then your trading perceived quality for less quantity of life. But who knows what turns you on? You can see what most folks are into. We just don't want the same folks checking out our topical plaques and thinking we're into something funky! Forget what the world thinks! Get the rays on your hide! Eat what thou wilt! Be here now! All will be. me. :) randall... what about you!
randall wrote: > Hi Ship, > > Why don't you buy THE book and do some macrobiotic dieting and let us > know how you do with it? I ate according to Macrobiotics for 7 years and though there was alot about it I liked I never was satisfied with the explanations we received from the macro teachers concerning why the "macro" way of eating seems to inevitably produce significant cravings. Now that I am eating a balanced, plant based diet I experience no cravings. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 Next » Related Discussion: Re: Muffin recipes? (1 posts) Re: the leuven university fired three employees due to the lies of matt parker (2 posts) Soda Ups Risk of Obesity, But Isn't Sole Culprit (1 posts) Lab Glucose Tests (1 posts) Top Discussions From Our Archives Design of Web sites for medical information Early life risk factors for obesity in childhood Mediterranean and Asian recipes to share Other Discussion Categories Diabetes Symptoms Health Care Policy Oops!!! Unexpected Error While Reading the Feed
|
| ||||||||
 |  |
