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--- OA causes fatigue, too?
hi moshe, i can only speak for myself and i do have oa, spine, knees, hands, etc.. and don't have diabetes. i think oa related fatigue depends alot upon where oa is located in the body. in dorothy hamill's case, i imagine she must have sustained a lot of spine jarring falls. and though she might not have fractured anything, her disks and soft tissue damage "could have" brought on spinal oa, assuming that's where her oa is. personally, i feel that living with a specific chronic pain level (especially, in my spine), that obviously would be different for different individuals, wears me out and wears me down. my fatigue, i think, is related to that. weakness, i think, is related to something else. whenever my spine compresses a nerve, like when i try to lift and carry heavy (for me) objects (like several plastic grocery bags full in each hand) away from my body, is when i experience weakness the most readily and consistantly. however, back in my late 20s or early 30s is when i tried to quit lifting or carrying things like 50 pound salt licks (we had farm animals at the time), because the weakness incurred was debilitating, but also because the pain was severe enough to make me feel like i was going to black out. but then, i'm stubborn. so, in my 40s, i got into a landscaping love affair/obsession with a ten yard load of one-man (ha!) landscaping rocks---and had a few episodes then, too, including subluxations--none of which deterred my ultimate intent. it just took me longer to do what i was determined to accomplish by myself. but then again, when my son was just a tiny infant (in my late 20s), there were times when just picking him up would literally put both of us on the floor (it was an aware easing to the floor kind of thing), until my strength returned, which sometimes took a couple of hours. i never knew when picking my infant up was going to cause weakness, so i tried very hard to stay alert for it, to prevent hurting my son. i figured safe on the floor was better for both of us, than crashing into things on the way down involuntarily. i think i'd suggest logging/journaling what you were doing (prior to a weakness episode--lifting, twisting, reaching, etc. one time for me, while sitting at the table reading a newspaper, i turned a full page and it brought an episode on, along with a subluxation. the twisting motion, i think did it, also because i have a tendancy to sit on my left hand to keep it warm, while reading.), that might have brought the fatigue/weakness episode on, might be helpful to your doctor and you. so, what i'm saying is try to observe the nuances of what came before an episode for you and write it down. kate news:1127140703.963048.227170@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > All of the official medical literature I have ever read says that > Rheumatoid Arthritis causes severe fatigue, but the same literature > gives the impression that Osteoarthritis does not cause any fatigue. > > However, in a Reader's Digest article within the last 5 years skater > Dorothy Hamill (spelling?) said that her Osteoarthritis caused a great > deal of fatigue until it was diagnosed and treated. > > So what is the truth according to the experience of people who actually > have Osteoarthritis? > > I want to know because I have DISH, which is related to Osteoarthritis, > and for 10 years I have been experiencing severe fatigue every day. I > will go from normal strength to weak as a kitten within a few minutes, > then after lying down for a couple of hours most of my strength will be > restored. > Although I am diabetic, my blood sugar is normal during those periods > of severe fatigue. > And doctors have said that they can find no other explanation for the > fatigue, either. > > - moshe >
news:1127140703.963048.227170@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > All of the official medical literature I have ever read says that > Rheumatoid Arthritis causes severe fatigue, but the same literature > gives the impression that Osteoarthritis does not cause any fatigue. > > However, in a Reader's Digest article within the last 5 years skater > Dorothy Hamill (spelling?) said that her Osteoarthritis caused a great > deal of fatigue until it was diagnosed and treated. > > So what is the truth according to the experience of people who actually > have Osteoarthritis? > > I want to know because I have DISH, which is related to Osteoarthritis, > and for 10 years I have been experiencing severe fatigue every day. I > will go from normal strength to weak as a kitten within a few minutes, > then after lying down for a couple of hours most of my strength will be > restored. > Although I am diabetic, my blood sugar is normal during those periods > of severe fatigue. > And doctors have said that they can find no other explanation for the > fatigue, either. > > - moshe Hi! Long before I got my RA diagnosis, doctors were pursuing MS as a possibility because of sudden weakness. While we don't have definitive answers for all of it, we have discovered two things: The weakness in my hands are caused by carpal tunnel syndrome. The opening for the nerve is sufficiently narrow that the nerve is compressed and the signal from my brain to maintain my hands position and grip just doesn't reach the hand. So, perhaps there is something inhibiting the signals from the brain; The body weakness, fatigue, 'drop foot' where I was tripping over my own toes, and balance problems go away if I avoid eating cream products (soups, whipped cream, ice cream, etc.). Don't know why. Too vague a thing to test. But a definite correlation. And while I also experience similar energy drains, I think of it as simply hitting the wall. It takes energy to deal with the pain, extra energy to move stiff joints, and extra energy to move an overweight body which is deconditioned from not exercising for several years. The battery runs out and needs to be recharged. Perhaps a diary of food intake, activity, and how you feel might help point out a pattern. It could be medication you are on doesn't last as long as typical for you. Or perhaps this occurs exactly x hours after waking, no matter when you get up. Or x hours after eating a particular food, or x hours after an activity. It could even be wholly unrelated to the OA - Do you rest in a different area than where you felt the fatigue? Could there be something environmental involved (carbon monoxide, solvents, paints...) Good luck sleuthing. I hope you find some answers. BTW - would it be to forward to say, "Shalom u'vracha!"? Adelle
> And doctors have said that they can find no other explanation for the > fatigue, either. > > - moshe I can only say that one of those doctor should be a Rheumatologist and a RD would treat the problem. The fatigue with a person who has inflam.arth, is because our immune system is working overtime fighting our own body... Any loss of sleep or normal rest is just too much for a persons daily routine. Harv
Hi, I find if I dont't get enough rest and am active for too long the fatigue is of longer duration and the pain attacks more then one area at a time. Even with RA meds nothing can forestall the fatigue except for getting more rest during the day. Which I understand is hard to do when you work.
As much as I know, and from personal experience, all types of Arthritis can cause fatigue. I was tired with OA, am tired with RA, and FM is a "pain in the A.., and every other place as well"! ;-) Note my signature line. -- Nanny I am Woman; I am Invincible; I am tired! news:1127140703.963048.227170@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > All of the official medical literature I have ever read says that > Rheumatoid Arthritis causes severe fatigue, but the same literature > gives the impression that Osteoarthritis does not cause any fatigue. > > However, in a Reader's Digest article within the last 5 years skater > Dorothy Hamill (spelling?) said that her Osteoarthritis caused a great > deal of fatigue until it was diagnosed and treated. > > So what is the truth according to the experience of people who actually > have Osteoarthritis? > > I want to know because I have DISH, which is related to Osteoarthritis, > and for 10 years I have been experiencing severe fatigue every day. I > will go from normal strength to weak as a kitten within a few minutes, > then after lying down for a couple of hours most of my strength will be > restored. > Although I am diabetic, my blood sugar is normal during those periods > of severe fatigue. > And doctors have said that they can find no other explanation for the > fatigue, either. > > - moshe > 1 2 3 Next » Related Discussion: Re: Aspartame Safe? You judge (2 posts) Looking for A Replacement for Celebrex, VIOXX and Bextra (1 posts) Preventing Microalbuminuria in Type 2 Diabetes (1 posts) Introduction...... (2 posts) Top Discussions From Our Archives FDA ignores warnings from own specialists Magnussa Phoenix free newsletter for alternative medicine, energy medicine and related subjects Other Discussion Categories Diabetes Symptoms Health Care Policy Health Care Providers HMO
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