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A Question about Pumps A Question about Pumps -- Posted by Preesi on 09-10-05 09:41
Hi, Im having a debate with my friend about Insulin Pumps.
Of those of you here with Insulin Dependent Diabetes,
What would you be happier with, having to test 5 times a day and take
needles and be a slave to a meter and food?
Or having an all in one insulin/BG tester?
My friend said shed rather have needles etc, I told her that having
needles actually sucks and a pump would be far easier.
--
preesi
~~~~~~~~~
"The Meek Shall Inherit The Earth?
Yeah, after The Strong Kick The Enemies Asses For You Cowards!"
~~~~~~~~~
My Websites: http://tinyurl.com/yvw45
Where I Hang Out: http://www.there.com
Lets go surfing together: http://www.lluna.de/
My Pogo and AIM name: PreesiGirl
(Come play with me)
Re: A Question about Pumps -- Posted by Nico Kadel-Garcia on 09-10-05 11:02
"Preesi" wrote in message
news:DdydnRK5LPwKkb7eRVn-vg@comcast.com... > Hi, Im having a debate with my friend about Insulin Pumps.
>
> Of those of you here with Insulin Dependent Diabetes,
> What would you be happier with, having to test 5 times a day and take
> needles and be a slave to a meter and food?
> Or having an all in one insulin/BG tester?
There is no such clinically approved critter, despite Minimed's trying to do
that for the last 10 years and Dr. Santiago's best efforts at Barnes
Hospital in Missouri for the 20 years before that.
> My friend said shed rather have needles etc, I told her that having
> needles actually sucks and a pump would be far easier.
If the insulin pumps had glucose testers built-in, it would be a no-brainer.
None such currently exist other than in testing, and various "testing"
models have been in "testing" for many decades now with no working models.
I used to design medical electronics: the difficulties of accurately sensing
blood glucose without drawing copious amounts of blood all day are quite
difficult and have not yet been surmounted, even with lots of clever
research and a huge market for it.
Re: A Question about Pumps -- Posted by Preesi on 09-10-05 11:12
Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > "Preesi" wrote in message
> news:DdydnRK5LPwKkb7eRVn-vg@comcast.com...
>> Hi, Im having a debate with my friend about Insulin Pumps.
>>
>> Of those of you here with Insulin Dependent Diabetes,
>> What would you be happier with, having to test 5 times a day and take
>> needles and be a slave to a meter and food?
>> Or having an all in one insulin/BG tester?
>
> There is no such clinically approved critter, despite Minimed's
> trying to do that for the last 10 years and Dr. Santiago's best
> efforts at Barnes Hospital in Missouri for the 20 years before that.
>
>> My friend said shed rather have needles etc, I told her that having
>> needles actually sucks and a pump would be far easier.
>
> If the insulin pumps had glucose testers built-in, it would be a
> no-brainer. None such currently exist other than in testing, and
> various "testing" models have been in "testing" for many decades now
> with no working models.
>
> I used to design medical electronics: the difficulties of accurately
> sensing blood glucose without drawing copious amounts of blood all
> day are quite difficult and have not yet been surmounted, even with
> lots of clever research and a huge market for it.
So what you are saying is that IF there was a WORKING Insulin/ Blood
Glucose testing PUMP on the market, EVERYONE would drop their needles/BG
testing kits and use the Pump?
--
preesi
~~~~~~~~~
"The Meek Shall Inherit The Earth?
Yeah, after The Strong Kick The Enemies Asses For You Cowards!"
~~~~~~~~~
My Websites: http://tinyurl.com/yvw45
Where I Hang Out: http://www.there.com
Lets go surfing together: http://www.lluna.de/
My Pogo and AIM name: PreesiGirl
(Come play with me)
Re: A Question about Pumps -- Posted by Nico Kadel-Garcia on 09-11-05 13:57
"Preesi" wrote in message
news:Q9CdneFV87Q3vL7eRVn-uA@comcast.com...
> So what you are saying is that IF there was a WORKING Insulin/ Blood
> Glucose testing PUMP on the market, EVERYONE would drop their needles/BG
> testing kits and use the Pump?
Yes, absolutely, except for a very poor or very strange few. Given that to
get optimal results with insulin shots you should be testing just as often
as for the pump, and that a closed cycle constant-monitoring glucometer/pump
would vastly reduce if not nearly eliminate hypoglycemic episodes and
long-term circulation and neural and kidney and eye problems from diabetes,
you're darned tooting we'd use it.
Re: A Question about Pumps -- Posted by jello5500 on 09-11-05 05:24
As a pump user--who was diagnosed in 1959--and who used syringes, urine
testing, glucose testing, and the like . . .
Life with the pump is far more manageable than without.
I still must test four or more times a day. I still watch diet (more
to avoid weight gain, now). My A1C went from 8.3 to a consistent 6.0.
I lost 40 pounds, and now have an appropriate BMI. Vision issues that
were beginning to crop up have faded. Beginnings of neuropathy
(numbness upon waking) have stabilized and begun to fade.
The combination pump/monitor will very likely be here. Deltec Cozmo
(http://www.cozmore.com) has a combination of the two, now, that still
requires manual testing. Medtronic is working on an implantible
sensor, and is apparently making progress (though slowly):
(http://www.minimed.com/products/guardianrt/index.html) At some point
in the future, there is a plan to merge this technology with their
pump.
Animas is also working on a combination of implanted sensor, to be used
with their pump, though the status of that project is less clear:
http://www.animascorp.com
Preesi wrote: > Hi, Im having a debate with my friend about Insulin Pumps.
>
> Of those of you here with Insulin Dependent Diabetes,
> What would you be happier with, having to test 5 times a day and take
> needles and be a slave to a meter and food?
> Or having an all in one insulin/BG tester?
> My friend said shed rather have needles etc, I told her that having
> needles actually sucks and a pump would be far easier.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> preesi
> ~~~~~~~~~
> "The Meek Shall Inherit The Earth?
> Yeah, after The Strong Kick The Enemies Asses For You Cowards!"
> ~~~~~~~~~
> My Websites: http://tinyurl.com/yvw45
> Where I Hang Out: http://www.there.com
> Lets go surfing together: http://www.lluna.de/
> My Pogo and AIM name: PreesiGirl
> (Come play with me)
Re: A Question about Pumps -- Posted by Nico Kadel-Garcia on 09-11-05 14:00
"jello5500" wrote in message
news:1126441473.812976.245340@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> The combination pump/monitor will very likely be here. Deltec Cozmo
> (http://www.cozmore.com) has a combination of the two, now, that still
> requires manual testing. Medtronic is working on an implantible
> sensor, and is apparently making progress (though slowly):
> (http://www.minimed.com/products/guardianrt/index.html) At some point
> in the future, there is a plan to merge this technology with their
> pump.
> Animas is also working on a combination of implanted sensor, to be used
> with their pump, though the status of that project is less clear:
> http://www.animascorp.com
And the non-invasive glucometer is "just around the corner", and the cure
for AIDS is "in scientific right now". I'm really sorry, but I've been
seeing claims like this for decades, and it has *NEVER* worked. It requires
a quantum leap in glucose sensing, something that is not destructive to
bloood, undamaging to tissue where installed, and extremely accurate. The
best ever managed has been one out of three.
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