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Speaking of Quackery, there is no science standing behind the Glycemic Speaking of Quackery, there is no science standing behind the Glycemic -- Posted by Mr-Natural-Health on 09-23-05 17:03
There is no science standing behind the Glycemic Index.
Show me the proof that the Scientific Method has proved that the
Glycemic index even exists, or that there is any agreement on what the
specific rating for a specific food item actually is or has validity to
it whatsoever.
Re: Speaking of Quackery, there is no science standing behind the Glycemic -- Posted by Barry on 09-23-05 17:50
I heard that the glycemic index is meant for use in the lab, not by the
consumer. Something about the type of carbs not being the whole story.
The amount matters too. Some people avoid healthy foods like carrots
because of the index.
Re: Speaking of Quackery, there is no science standing behind the Glycemic -- Posted by montygram on 09-23-05 17:55
You are correct, nature boy. It must be a first for you!
Seriously, the GI is an abstraction, really - "nutritional science" at
its worst. Even the glycemic load does not mean much, if anything. As
Dr. Spindler of caloric restriction fame has noted, the calorie
resticted animals have an intense insulin spike when they eat, whereas
the control animals have moderately high levels that "hang around" for
much longer periods of time. This seems to be the important
difference. It is an issue of dysfunction at the cellular and
molecular level, and as recent studies at those levels have indicated,
oxidative stress appears to be the underlying mechanism (turning on
what should be kept off and turning off what should be kept on). Think
of a light switch. Oxidative stress turns the body's lights on during
the day, when they are not needed, and turns them off in the evening,
when they are needed.
Re: Speaking of Quackery, there is no science standing behind the Glycemic -- Posted by Ignoramus19652 on 09-23-05 18:55
On 23 Sep 2005 17:03:07 -0700, Mr-Natural-Health wrote: > There is no science standing behind the Glycemic Index.
Correct. All bullshit and smoke and mirrors, paid for by grain companies.
> Show me the proof that the Scientific Method has proved that the
> Glycemic index even exists, or that there is any agreement on what the
> specific rating for a specific food item actually is or has validity to
> it whatsoever.
Check out
http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/gi.pdf
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Re: Speaking of Quackery, there is no science standing behind the Glycemic -- Posted by Carol Frilegh on 09-24-05 06:33
In article <5m2Ze.102019$XF3.55678@fe29.usenetserver.com>,
Ignoramus19652 wrote:
> On 23 Sep 2005 17:03:07 -0700, Mr-Natural-Health
> wrote:
> > There is no science standing behind the Glycemic Index.
>
> Correct. All bullshit and smoke and mirrors, paid for by grain companies.
>
> > Show me the proof that the Scientific Method has proved that the
> > Glycemic index even exists, or that there is any agreement on what the
> > specific rating for a specific food item actually is or has validity to
> > it whatsoever.
Th scientist who researched The Specific Carbohydrate Diet did not
support the Glycemic Index because it never ditinguished between mono
and disaccharide carbohydrates. On that diet inusulin spike is not the
concern, kt is digestability.
>
> Check out
>
> http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/gi.pdf
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******
There is no substitute for the right food
Re: Speaking of Quackery, there is no science standing behind the Glycemic -- Posted by Ignoramus10467 on 09-24-05 06:52
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 09:33:58 -0400, Carol Frilegh wrote: > In article <5m2Ze.102019$XF3.55678@fe29.usenetserver.com>,
> Ignoramus19652 wrote:
>
>> On 23 Sep 2005 17:03:07 -0700, Mr-Natural-Health
>> wrote:
>> > There is no science standing behind the Glycemic Index.
>>
>> Correct. All bullshit and smoke and mirrors, paid for by grain companies.
>>
>> > Show me the proof that the Scientific Method has proved that the
>> > Glycemic index even exists, or that there is any agreement on what the
>> > specific rating for a specific food item actually is or has validity to
>> > it whatsoever.
>
> Th scientist who researched The Specific Carbohydrate Diet did not
> support the Glycemic Index because it never ditinguished between mono
> and disaccharide carbohydrates. On that diet inusulin spike is not the
> concern, kt is digestability.
Makes sense to me.
i
>>
>> Check out
>>
>> http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/gi.pdf
>
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