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doing marathon walk


doing marathon walk -- Posted by Dave on 09-24-05 19:19


My wife is getting prepared to walk the STROKE marathon in Arizona. I have
a few questions:

1. Why do her sugars go up about 20 points slightly after exercising? Today
she walked 10 miles of flat land and hills and started at about 120 and went
up to 159 after finishing her walk. All she had while walking was some
powder to mix with water they gave her that had 5 grams of sugar in it. She
is about 40 pounds overweight if that makes any difference. I have noticed
my sugars go up about that much after I walk on a treadmill for only 20
minutes. I am very obese.

2. What is suggested to drink or eat when exercising that much or more like
a full on marathon? The trainers give the walkers gummy bears, fruit,
licorice and this powder to mix with water that has something to keep the
electrolite levels (up?). My wife's diabetic nurse educator/nutrtionist
said to consume whatever the trainers suggest which I find hard to believe.

3. Any suggestions in general for a type-2 diabetic to do when walking a
marathon? My wifes sugars are in very good control day to day. Her HBA1C
is a 5.5 for the past few years.

4. My wife is on Metformin only for her diabetes.

TIA

Dave



Re: doing marathon walk -- Posted by Bill Eitner on 09-24-05 22:05


Dave wrote:
> My wife is getting prepared to walk the STROKE marathon in Arizona. I have
> a few questions:
>
> 1. Why do her sugars go up about 20 points slightly after exercising? Today
> she walked 10 miles of flat land and hills and started at about 120 and went
> up to 159 after finishing her walk. All she had while walking was some
> powder to mix with water they gave her that had 5 grams of sugar in it. She
> is about 40 pounds overweight if that makes any difference. I have noticed
> my sugars go up about that much after I walk on a treadmill for only 20
> minutes. I am very obese.

What are your diets like
(how many grams or carbohydrate per day)?

This is just guesswork, but if you're not
eating a fairly strict low-carb diet I'd
say the increase is due to the release of
stored glucose and possibly the conversion
of a certain amount of protein into glucose.
The ratio of one reason to the other depends
on how strict the diet is with regard to
carbohydrate and protein.

> 2. What is suggested to drink or eat when exercising that much or more like
> a full on marathon? The trainers give the walkers gummy bears, fruit,
> licorice and this powder to mix with water that has something to keep the
> electrolite levels (up?). My wife's diabetic nurse educator/nutrtionist
> said to consume whatever the trainers suggest which I find hard to believe.

What's her priority; athletic performance
during the marathon or blood sugar control?
If it's the former, follow the mainstream
advice (carb junk and electrolite drinks).
If it's the latter, stick to the normal
(probably low-carb) diet and supplemental
sodium and potassium if necessary. When
actually on the road, if it were me, I'd
go with jerky, cooked meat that isn't too
lean, hard boiled eggs--that sort of thing--
protein and fat rather than carb junk.

Something to keep in mind is that the ADA
dietary recommendations are not low-carb.
For that reason the mainstream advice for
diabetic athletes isn't really any different
than that given to non-diabetic athletes.
I think it's ridiculous, but that's just me.

> 3. Any suggestions in general for a type-2 diabetic to do when walking a
> marathon?

Don't do it unless you're in shape (trained)
for it. Since it's walking rather than running
(the relative intensity is low), ones regular
diet plus a little supplemental potassium and
plenty of water should do it.

There's at least one study that I know of that
suggests fat is a better energy source for
athletes than carbohydrate. I feel that's
especially true for those who control their
carbohydrate intake (where the body has at
least partially shifted the emphasis from
carbohydrate to fat as the preferred energy
source). With that in mind, protein and fat
rather than carbohydrate prior to and during
the event make sense.
--


Re: doing marathon walk -- Posted by Dave on 09-26-05 11:27


Bill,
We are not doing low carb so maybe that is it. I appreciate the reply.



"Bill Eitner" wrote in message
news:peqZe.6614$6e1.3809@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
> Dave wrote:
> > My wife is getting prepared to walk the STROKE marathon in Arizona. I
have
> > a few questions:
> >
> > 1. Why do her sugars go up about 20 points slightly after exercising?
Today
> > she walked 10 miles of flat land and hills and started at about 120 and
went
> > up to 159 after finishing her walk. All she had while walking was some
> > powder to mix with water they gave her that had 5 grams of sugar in it.
She
> > is about 40 pounds overweight if that makes any difference. I have
noticed
> > my sugars go up about that much after I walk on a treadmill for only 20
> > minutes. I am very obese.
>
> What are your diets like

> (how many grams or carbohydrate per day)?
>
> This is just guesswork, but if you're not

> eating a fairly strict low-carb diet I'd
> say the increase is due to the release of
> stored glucose and possibly the conversion
> of a certain amount of protein into glucose.
> The ratio of one reason to the other depends
> on how strict the diet is with regard to
> carbohydrate and protein.
>
> > 2. What is suggested to drink or eat when exercising that much or more

like
> > a full on marathon? The trainers give the walkers gummy bears, fruit,
> > licorice and this powder to mix with water that has something to keep
the
> > electrolite levels (up?). My wife's diabetic nurse educator/nutrtionist
> > said to consume whatever the trainers suggest which I find hard to
believe.
>
> What's her priority; athletic performance

> during the marathon or blood sugar control?
> If it's the former, follow the mainstream
> advice (carb junk and electrolite drinks).
> If it's the latter, stick to the normal
> (probably low-carb) diet and supplemental
> sodium and potassium if necessary. When
> actually on the road, if it were me, I'd
> go with jerky, cooked meat that isn't too
> lean, hard boiled eggs--that sort of thing--
> protein and fat rather than carb junk.
>
> Something to keep in mind is that the ADA

> dietary recommendations are not low-carb.
> For that reason the mainstream advice for
> diabetic athletes isn't really any different
> than that given to non-diabetic athletes.
> I think it's ridiculous, but that's just me.
>
> > 3. Any suggestions in general for a type-2 diabetic to do when walking

a
> > marathon?
>
> Don't do it unless you're in shape (trained)

> for it. Since it's walking rather than running
> (the relative intensity is low), ones regular
> diet plus a little supplemental potassium and
> plenty of water should do it.
>
> There's at least one study that I know of that

> suggests fat is a better energy source for
> athletes than carbohydrate. I feel that's
> especially true for those who control their
> carbohydrate intake (where the body has at
> least partially shifted the emphasis from
> carbohydrate to fat as the preferred energy
> source). With that in mind, protein and fat
> rather than carbohydrate prior to and during
> the event make sense.
> --




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