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Re: Would You Cure a Profitable Disease?

Re: Would You Cure a Profitable Disease? -- Posted by Beav on 01-28-04 09:57

"JOE G" wrote in message
news:aL6dnWwAAcqXSZvd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> I totally agree with you. It's the money! I was kicked out of a medical
> program twenty years ago when I voiced my feelings on a cure for cancer.
If
> you think there's money in the treatment of diabetes take a look at
cancer.
> You can't tell me that somewhere in some hidden lab there's not a cure
that
> the AMA will not let out because of the financial hit that Oncology would
> take.

Well *I'D* tell you you're wrong, but I doubt you'd believe me, so I'll not
bother :-)

What can we do???

Hope we don't get one of the cancer's there ISN'T a cure for.

The AMA is much more powerful than I am and that's
> that.

JFK and Jimmy Hoffa are looking for a bed, any ideas? :)

Beav

Re: Would You Cure a Profitable Disease? -- Posted by Conni Brady on 01-15-04 23:49

I would tend to agree with you here as i have been a diabetic for 30 years
and seen alot of atleast my own families hard earned money go towards a
cure. They (the money earners) don't want ot cure this, they would lose ar
too much money by curing us. They want us to buy perscription meds and
needles and alcohol wipes and cotton balls and finger prickers... Hasn't
anyone here noticed they tend to give you the blood glucose monitors for
either free or next to nothing.. because they know in order to use it as
prescribbed you must have the stips which cost anywhere between 25 and 100
bucks in the US.

Conni Brady
"You only thought you got rid of me"
Aspartame Awareness
www.bradymax.com/nzaa
Robin Cowdrey wrote in message
news:515Nb.15089$De.1586@edtnps84...
>
> "*~*WiseWords -
> WiseWords4Diabetics"
>
> wrote in message
> news:1e34062c.0311040543.3481a100@posting.google.com...
> > "mike gray, CID"
>
> WROTE:
> > > *~*WiseWords -
> WiseWords4Diabetics wrote:
> > >
> > > > The ADA estimates that
> the total direct expenses
> associated with
> > > > diabetes care each year
> in the U.S. is $44 billion.
> > > > That is a lot of money
> and jobs that would be lost
> with a cure.
> > > > The powers that be do
> not want a cure.
> > > > Even the ADA is not
> pouring money into INGAP
> research. Why not?
> > > > Diabetics need to speak
> up on this issue.
> > >
> > > Then, by your argument,
> even more money would be
> pouring into the
> > > current state of the
> disease and there would be
> even less incentive to
> > > find a cure. Do you think
> those research institutes want
> to end all
> > > their research grants and
> fire all those researchers?
> > >
> > > Private enterprise, by
> your argument, has the
> greatest incentive: if a
> > > cure gave a company a mere
> 20% of the diabetes market,
> they'd be bigger
> > > than Lilly overnight.
> >
> > Your conclusions are way off
> base.
> > The facts are that only a
> relatively small amount of
> money
> > is being put into the
> closest thing we have to a
> cure.
> > This is not a hypothesis for
> a cure. It has already taken
> place
> > among animals. There remains
> research to be done for
> humans.
> >
> > Although I would be quite
> happy and set for life if I
> won a lottery of
> > 5 million dollars, that
> amount is very small for
> research, especially
> > when compared to other
> research items.
> > As I stated, Squibb is
> putting in a total of $165
> million for
> > further research and
> development of Basulin
> insulin. That includes
> > a $20 million dollar upfront
> payment for the rights to it.
> > I am not picking on Squibb.
> They were pushed out of the
> insulin business
> > years ago, but apparently
> they realized their mistake.
> >
> > The question which comes to
> the forefront, is why is only
> $5 million
> > being put into research for
> a possible viable cure, with a
> nother
> > $24 million to go to GMP
> Research for other projects
> that
> > Procter & Gamble will get a
> cut out of?
> > And of course, why GMP
> research, instead of a bigger
> company?
> > Or, why not more money to
> them?
> >
> > Government supported
> research projects would not be
> in the same
> > position as private
> enterprise with regard to
> being concerned about
> > future projects.
>
> I have been called a left wing
> nut by our provincial premier
> (Ralph Klein, right wing
> premier of Alberta, Canada)
> for having the views that I
> do, but the modus operandi of
> capitalism and right wing
> governments is to make profit.
> The Democrats in the US would
> be right wing anywhere else in
> the world soI'm not sure what
> that makes the Republicans.
> There is absolutely no reason
> for a US drug company to seek
> a cure for diabetes. The
> pharmaceutical companies are
> making CDN$5K or more out of
> me. I'm the perfect patient,
> they've got me for life.
> Hypertensive, hyperlipidic and
> diabetic. In spite of well
> controlled everything and
> exercising my buns off , I've
> just been diagnosed with
> neuropathy and its attendent
> pain so another drug is being
> added to the cocktail. Why on
> earth would anyone want to
> cure me. There probably
> putting something in the pills
> I take already to make me
> sicker. If breakthroughs are
> ever made it certainly won't
> be a US researcher that does
> it. Insulin was discovered by
> Canadians and islet
> transplants were pioneered
> right here in Edmonton. You
> can bet your boots that if
> there ever is a breakthrough
> it will be made in an
> underfunded university
> hospital by an academic who
> will have to fight for
> recognition. That's how it
> works.
>
> Robin
>
> meds: too numerous to
> mention!!
>

Re: Would You Cure a Profitable Disease? -- Posted by Ozgirl on 01-16-04 00:59

"Conni Brady" wrote in message
news:QGMNb.13572$9k7.254156@news.xtra.co.nz...
> I would tend to agree with you here as i have been a
diabetic for 30 years
> and seen alot of atleast my own families hard earned
money go towards a
> cure. They (the money earners) don't want ot cure
this, they would lose ar
> too much money by curing us. They want us to buy
perscription meds and
> needles and alcohol wipes and cotton balls and finger
prickers... Hasn't
> anyone here noticed they tend to give you the blood
glucose monitors for
> either free or next to nothing.. because they know in
order to use it as
> prescribbed you must have the stips which cost
anywhere between 25 and 100
> bucks in the US.

You are still blowing out your arse Connie. I paid $39
au for my meter and buy my strips for $1 per 100, even
full price is affordable. Why don't you give the NZ
costs instead of pretending you are not a NZ company
and only bringing up US costs?? I really doubt the US
is going to hand the cure success to another country.
Everyone is fighting to be first with the cure. Curing
diseases like diabetes is going to come with a lot of
glory for the successful researchers. You are still as
stupid as you always were and still parroting without
thinking for yourself, why keep reminding everyone?

Re: Would You Cure a Profitable Disease? -- Posted by Julie Bove on 01-16-04 04:01

"Ozgirl" wrote in message
news:bu8976$elpgb$1@ID-139901.news.uni-berlin.de...

> You are still blowing out your arse Connie. I paid $39
> au for my meter and buy my strips for $1 per 100, even
> full price is affordable. Why don't you give the NZ
> costs instead of pretending you are not a NZ company
> and only bringing up US costs?? I really doubt the US
> is going to hand the cure success to another country.
> Everyone is fighting to be first with the cure. Curing
> diseases like diabetes is going to come with a lot of
> glory for the successful researchers. You are still as
> stupid as you always were and still parroting without
> thinking for yourself, why keep reminding everyone?

She is also not mentioning that many of us in the US have insurance so we
pay little to nothing for our strips. I pay something like $11 for 100
strips until I've met my catastrophic cap for the year. After that, I pay
nothing.

--
Type 2
http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/

Re: Would You Cure a Profitable Disease? -- Posted by Mark Dowden on 01-17-04 23:33

In my opnion someone has found the answer: Read the site www.thephmiracle.us
and if you are intrigued by what is said go to
http://www.innerlightinc.com/wellness2004.
"Robin Cowdrey" wrote in message
news:515Nb.15089$De.1586@edtnps84...
>
> "*~*WiseWords -
> WiseWords4Diabetics"
>
> wrote in message
> news:1e34062c.0311040543.3481a100@posting.google.com...
> > "mike gray, CID"
>
> WROTE:
> > > *~*WiseWords -
> WiseWords4Diabetics wrote:
> > >
> > > > The ADA estimates that
> the total direct expenses
> associated with
> > > > diabetes care each year
> in the U.S. is $44 billion.
> > > > That is a lot of money
> and jobs that would be lost
> with a cure.
> > > > The powers that be do
> not want a cure.
> > > > Even the ADA is not
> pouring money into INGAP
> research. Why not?
> > > > Diabetics need to speak
> up on this issue.
> > >
> > > Then, by your argument,
> even more money would be
> pouring into the
> > > current state of the
> disease and there would be
> even less incentive to
> > > find a cure. Do you think
> those research institutes want
> to end all
> > > their research grants and
> fire all those researchers?
> > >
> > > Private enterprise, by
> your argument, has the
> greatest incentive: if a
> > > cure gave a company a mere
> 20% of the diabetes market,
> they'd be bigger
> > > than Lilly overnight.
> >
> > Your conclusions are way off
> base.
> > The facts are that only a
> relatively small amount of
> money
> > is being put into the
> closest thing we have to a
> cure.
> > This is not a hypothesis for
> a cure. It has already taken
> place
> > among animals. There remains
> research to be done for
> humans.
> >
> > Although I would be quite
> happy and set for life if I
> won a lottery of
> > 5 million dollars, that
> amount is very small for
> research, especially
> > when compared to other
> research items.
> > As I stated, Squibb is
> putting in a total of $165
> million for
> > further research and
> development of Basulin
> insulin. That includes
> > a $20 million dollar upfront
> payment for the rights to it.
> > I am not picking on Squibb.
> They were pushed out of the
> insulin business
> > years ago, but apparently
> they realized their mistake.
> >
> > The question which comes to
> the forefront, is why is only
> $5 million
> > being put into research for
> a possible viable cure, with a
> nother
> > $24 million to go to GMP
> Research for other projects
> that
> > Procter & Gamble will get a
> cut out of?
> > And of course, why GMP
> research, instead of a bigger
> company?
> > Or, why not more money to
> them?
> >
> > Government supported
> research projects would not be
> in the same
> > position as private
> enterprise with regard to
> being concerned about
> > future projects.
>
> I have been called a left wing
> nut by our provincial premier
> (Ralph Klein, right wing
> premier of Alberta, Canada)
> for having the views that I
> do, but the modus operandi of
> capitalism and right wing
> governments is to make profit.
> The Democrats in the US would
> be right wing anywhere else in
> the world soI'm not sure what
> that makes the Republicans.
> There is absolutely no reason
> for a US drug company to seek
> a cure for diabetes. The
> pharmaceutical companies are
> making CDN$5K or more out of
> me. I'm the perfect patient,
> they've got me for life.
> Hypertensive, hyperlipidic and
> diabetic. In spite of well
> controlled everything and
> exercising my buns off , I've
> just been diagnosed with
> neuropathy and its attendent
> pain so another drug is being
> added to the cocktail. Why on
> earth would anyone want to
> cure me. There probably
> putting something in the pills
> I take already to make me
> sicker. If breakthroughs are
> ever made it certainly won't
> be a US researcher that does
> it. Insulin was discovered by
> Canadians and islet
> transplants were pioneered
> right here in Edmonton. You
> can bet your boots that if
> there ever is a breakthrough
> it will be made in an
> underfunded university
> hospital by an academic who
> will have to fight for
> recognition. That's how it
> works.
>
> Robin
>
> meds: too numerous to
> mention!!
>

Re: Would You Cure a Profitable Disease? -- Posted by Mack on 01-17-04 23:37

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:33:20 GMT, "Mark Dowden"
wrote:

>In my opnion someone has found the answer: Read the site www.thequackmiracle.us
>and if you are intrigued by what is said go to
>http://www.innerscumbagsinc.com/wellness2004.

the only cure these sites provide is a way to lighten your wallet and
destroy what health you have.

Mack
Type 1 since 1975
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
http://www.insulin-pumpers.org

In tribute to the United States of America and the State
of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
terrorism.

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