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Weight Loss - Amazing Results


Weight Loss - Amazing Results -- Posted by Michael Roback on 12-25-03 14:01


About 6 months ago I had written to this newsgroup frantic, reporting that
my physical had revealed the following numbers:

Blood Cholesterol 275
HDL 48
LDL 190
Risk Ratio 6.1
Triglycerides 271
Blood Sugar over 200 with a Hb1C of 9.1

Since then, I have lost 50LBS, have a low dose 20mg of Pravachol and Niacin,
tried Glucophage but MD took me off of it a couple of months ago, and here
are my numbers...

Blood Cholesterol 160
HDL 65
LDL 75
Risk Ratio <2
Triglycerides 41
Fasting BS 83
HB1C 5.2

Can diabetes be controlled like this just with losing weight? I started
exercising for about 3 months aggressively after learning of the numbers. I
have slacked off somewhat as I am building a house, but even with less
exercise my numbers seem very normal. In light of these numbers, am I
diabetic, sugar intolerant, etc.??? Anyone else have this experience?





Re: Weight Loss - Amazing Results -- Posted by Beav on 12-25-03 17:18



"Michael Roback" wrote in message
news:m7JGb.19699$Pg1.4484@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> About 6 months ago I had written to this newsgroup frantic, reporting that
> my physical had revealed the following numbers:
>
> Blood Cholesterol 275

> HDL 48
> LDL 190
> Risk Ratio 6.1
> Triglycerides 271
> Blood Sugar over 200 with a Hb1C of 9.1
>
> Since then, I have lost 50LBS, have a low dose 20mg of Pravachol and

Niacin,
> tried Glucophage but MD took me off of it a couple of months ago, and here
> are my numbers...
>
> Blood Cholesterol 160

> HDL 65
> LDL 75
> Risk Ratio <2
> Triglycerides 41
> Fasting BS 83
> HB1C 5.2
>
> Can diabetes be controlled like this just with losing weight? I started

> exercising for about 3 months aggressively after learning of the numbers.
I
> have slacked off somewhat as I am building a house, but even with less
> exercise my numbers seem very normal. In light of these numbers, am I
> diabetic, sugar intolerant, etc.??? Anyone else have this experience?

You're still diabetic, and unfortunately always will be, but now you're a
CNTROLLED diabetic. Some diabetics can maintainexcellent control by losing
weight and including some exercise, and it seems that you're in that group.

That's GOOD, but it's not a cure, so keep checking your BG's and eating
"properly". That, and you excercise should see you staying in good health,
but NOT testing and thinking you're NOT diabetic, will lead you into "bad
ways":-) which I'm sure you don't want.

Congrats on your numbers too. Some people would die for them, and those who
don't strive for them, die BECAUSE of them (their numbers, not yours:)

Beav



Re: Weight Loss - Amazing Results -- Posted by Tor on 12-25-03 17:36


I would agree with Beav but would like to add that weightloss in itself does
make a tremendous difference, although it's not a cure. Reducing the number
of fat cells - while adding the number of 'good' muscle cells will
dramatically reduce insulin resistance - and make it easier to manage blood
sugars with a minimum of meds and or exercise/diet.

"Michael Roback" wrote in message
news:m7JGb.19699$Pg1.4484@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> About 6 months ago I had written to this newsgroup frantic, reporting that
> my physical had revealed the following numbers:
>
> Blood Cholesterol 275

> HDL 48
> LDL 190
> Risk Ratio 6.1
> Triglycerides 271
> Blood Sugar over 200 with a Hb1C of 9.1
>
> Since then, I have lost 50LBS, have a low dose 20mg of Pravachol and

Niacin,
> tried Glucophage but MD took me off of it a couple of months ago, and here
> are my numbers...
>
> Blood Cholesterol 160

> HDL 65
> LDL 75
> Risk Ratio <2
> Triglycerides 41
> Fasting BS 83
> HB1C 5.2
>
> Can diabetes be controlled like this just with losing weight? I started

> exercising for about 3 months aggressively after learning of the numbers.
I
> have slacked off somewhat as I am building a house, but even with less
> exercise my numbers seem very normal. In light of these numbers, am I
> diabetic, sugar intolerant, etc.??? Anyone else have this experience?
>
>

>
>




Re: Weight Loss - Amazing Results -- Posted by Eldritch on 12-25-03 18:23


Michael Roback wrote:

>
> Can diabetes be controlled like this just with losing weight? ... Anyone else have this experience?
>

You're still diabetic, just a well controlled one. Diagnosis is a one
way street. Once you're diagnosed, you never go back, short of an organ
transplant. Although you've become very well controlled, BG levels are
no the only symptom of the disease. You became diabetic becaause your
beta cells were dying. Those beta cells will not return. You just
have enough of them to still do the job adequately in your present
situation.


Obesity is related to insulin resistance. If you are sufficiently
insulin resistant, then losing weight will improve your control. It is
routine for doctors to order their diabetics to lose weight for this
reason. Many doctors do that to the extent that you'd think losing
weight was the only effective way to control diabetes. Nevertheless,
many lose weight only to find little or no effect on their control.
That weight loss and increased exercise have had an tremendous effect on
your control is teriffic. Congratulations.


E


Re: Weight Loss - Amazing Results -- Posted by John on 12-26-03 13:52


Are you still a diabetic? Were you ever a diabetic? I'm not sure how one can
answer that question. However you certainly have achieved a healthy result
from your activities. Some say diabetes is due to lack of insulin due to
dying pancreatic beta cells. Others say it's too many fat cells causing
insulin resistance. If it's the latter, as it could well be in your case,
then your insulin levels might have been fine and your beta cells fine also.
The only way to know is with insulin level tests. But an excess number of
fat cells could make a normal insulin level not as effective. So who knows
if you were, are, or will be diabetic. You do know about how your body
responds and that's an invaluable lesson.


"Michael Roback" wrote in message
news:m7JGb.19699$Pg1.4484@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> About 6 months ago I had written to this newsgroup frantic, reporting that
> my physical had revealed the following numbers:
>
> Blood Cholesterol 275

> HDL 48
> LDL 190
> Risk Ratio 6.1
> Triglycerides 271
> Blood Sugar over 200 with a Hb1C of 9.1
>
> Since then, I have lost 50LBS, have a low dose 20mg of Pravachol and

Niacin,
> tried Glucophage but MD took me off of it a couple of months ago, and here
> are my numbers...
>
> Blood Cholesterol 160

> HDL 65
> LDL 75
> Risk Ratio <2
> Triglycerides 41
> Fasting BS 83
> HB1C 5.2
>
> Can diabetes be controlled like this just with losing weight? I started

> exercising for about 3 months aggressively after learning of the numbers.
I
> have slacked off somewhat as I am building a house, but even with less
> exercise my numbers seem very normal. In light of these numbers, am I
> diabetic, sugar intolerant, etc.??? Anyone else have this experience?
>
>

>
>




Re: Weight Loss - Amazing Results -- Posted by RK on 12-26-03 17:02


"John" wrote in message
news:J22Hb.27322$Ol1.2435@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> Are you still a diabetic? Were you ever a diabetic? I'm not sure how one
can
> answer that question.
You're kidding right? This is a clear indicator he's diabetic. Did you even
read
his entire post?

"> > Blood Sugar over 200 with a Hb1C of 9.1" <- Diabetic numbers -
Diagnosis from ADA anytime glucose is over 200.

However you certainly have achieved a healthy result
> from your activities.

Some say diabetes is due to lack of insulin due to
> dying pancreatic beta cells.

This is a T1 Diabetic. Not some say.

Others say it's too many fat cells causing
> insulin resistance.
This is a T2 Diabetic. Not some say.

If it's the latter, as it could well be in your case,
> then your insulin levels might have been fine and your beta cells fine
also.
> The only way to know is with insulin level tests. But an excess number of
> fat cells could make a normal insulin level not as effective. So who knows
> if you were, are, or will be diabetic. You do know about how your body
> responds and that's an invaluable lesson.
>
Plain and simple, he's lost weight, lowered his carb intake, thus achieving

lower
glucose numbers. He's diabetic, and will always be diabetic. Once he sways
from
his new diet, soon his numbers will reflect higher numbers. That's a given.

--
RK - t1
In tribute to the United States of America and the State
of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
terrorism.

>
> "Michael Roback" wrote in message

> news:m7JGb.19699$Pg1.4484@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > About 6 months ago I had written to this newsgroup frantic, reporting
that
> > my physical had revealed the following numbers:
> >
> > Blood Cholesterol 275
> > HDL 48
> > LDL 190
> > Risk Ratio 6.1
> > Triglycerides 271
> > Blood Sugar over 200 with a Hb1C of 9.1
> >
> > Since then, I have lost 50LBS, have a low dose 20mg of Pravachol and
> Niacin,
> > tried Glucophage but MD took me off of it a couple of months ago, and
here
> > are my numbers...
> >
> > Blood Cholesterol 160
> > HDL 65
> > LDL 75
> > Risk Ratio <2
> > Triglycerides 41
> > Fasting BS 83
> > HB1C 5.2
> >
> > Can diabetes be controlled like this just with losing weight? I started
> > exercising for about 3 months aggressively after learning of the
numbers.
> I
> > have slacked off somewhat as I am building a house, but even with less
> > exercise my numbers seem very normal. In light of these numbers, am I
> > diabetic, sugar intolerant, etc.??? Anyone else have this experience?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>



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