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--- Dia-Log.com - free online logbook
On 29 Feb 2004 18:26:52 -0800, mboeselager@wi.rr.com (Mike) wrote: >I just wanted to invite everyone to visit www.dia-log.com. This is a free >online diabetes management website. Enjoy! Why does one have to sign up for a freebe? Just what information are you collecting and better yet who are you giving this information to? FREE ME ASS!!!!!! Move along now SPAMMER, nothing to see here! rb
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 21:34:06 -0600, RB >On 29 Feb 2004 18:26:52 -0800, mboeselager@wi.rr.com (Mike) wrote: > >>I just wanted to invite everyone to visit www.dia-log.com. This is a free >>online diabetes management website. Enjoy! > >Why does one have to sign up for a freebe? Just what information are >you collecting and better yet who are you giving this information to? > >FREE ME ASS!!!!!! > > Move along now SPAMMER, nothing to see here! > >rb We do get a little paranoid here at times. Actually, the site seems to have some interesting info, particularly if you're american and eat fast foods (there's a carb counter for all the chains, useless here), and I didn't see any advertising. I logged in as user "dilog", password dilog, email dilog@dilog.net if you want to check it out safely. It let me in without hassle, and let me view without problems when I rejected cookies. At least whoever designed it seems to have some knowledge of diabetes. The log-book system may be useful to some; I couldn't care less if someone is harvesting the info from that, particularly if it is used to research the disease. So, unless someone can show that there's some ulterior motive, I personally feel that labelling this post as spam is a little harsh at this stage. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. -- Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 23:00:55 +1100, Alan >On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 21:34:06 -0600, RB >>On 29 Feb 2004 18:26:52 -0800, mboeselager@wi.rr.com (Mike) wrote: >>>I just wanted to invite everyone to visit www.dia-log.com. This is a free >>>online diabetes management website. Enjoy! >>Why does one have to sign up for a freebe? Just what information are >>you collecting and better yet who are you giving this information to? >>FREE ME ASS!!!!!! >> Move along now SPAMMER, nothing to see here! >>rb >We do get a little paranoid here at times. I wouldn't say paranoia - perhaps over protective. with good reason. >Actually, the site seems to have some interesting info, particularly if >you're american and eat fast foods (there's a carb counter for all the >chains, useless here), and I didn't see any advertising. There is no direct advertising, the function is not to make money out of adlinks >I logged in as user "dilog", password dilog, email dilog@dilog.net if >you want to check it out safely. It let me in without hassle, and let me >view without problems when I rejected cookies. It will do because it has been constructed that way. The intent is to allow data input for all who want to use it without restriction. Hence the validity of your email was not checked. Why? Read on. >At least whoever designed it seems to have some knowledge of diabetes. And the desire to acquire more but in data form. >The log-book system may be useful to some; I couldn't care less if >someone is harvesting the info from that, particularly if it is used to >research the disease. Information like this entered into a publicly accessible facillity ought to be secured. It is not. Why? >So, unless someone can show that there's some ulterior motive, I >personally feel that labelling this post as spam is a little harsh at >this stage. Your overly liberal views will lead you into bother occasionally :-)) >Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.dia-log.com. Disclaimer: Dia-log.com is intented for information purposes only. *** and is not responsible for any uses of entered or supplied information.*** Please seek advice from your health care provider before using this site or adjusting any insulin doses. *** Dia-log.com is not responsible for any information obtained or read from the site.*** Clicking Save, indicates you've read and agreed to this statement. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now you ask yourself why would anyone go to all the bother of putting up a fairly good and functional web site and registering a domain and the set up etc? Not for the fun of it. Perhaps public spirited generosity and a desire to selflessly help others? Bollocks!! Not in the US. Read on -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.businessnorth.com/viewarticle.asp?articleid=713 Another graduate is Mike Boeselager, surgical services business manager at Miller-Dwan Medical Center. After finishing the two-year Duluth program, he pursued a bachelor's degree in supervisory management at Concordia College in St. Paul, taught in the accelerated model. He and his 16 classmates finished in 16 months. The two-year program was well done, but the cohort program definitely would been a benefit, he said. With the cohort, there are smaller groups and deeper interaction. You really share a lot and get to know each others’ businessess, Boeselager said. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Boeselager, surgical services business manager at Miller-Dwan Medical Center................ Well done Mike............ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.diabetesnet.com/diabetes_technology/software.php Mike Boeselager created his Dia-Log on the web for entering blood sugars, insulin doses, and foods by hand. Has some nice custom reports. Price: 30 days free, then $19.95/year. http://www.geometry.net/detail/basic_d/diabetes_&_diet_page_no_2.html Mike Boeselager created his Dia-Log on the web for entering blood sugars, insulin doses, and foods by hand. Has some nice custom reports. Price: 30 days free, then $19.95/year. AND there you have it..............................a small side line to supplement?? Whatever. IMO the post was a clear device to get people to use the site. Why? It is insecure and there is a disclaimer which you agree to in effect freely providing data. Data which in volume and under certain criterion can be resold. I am bored with this now.................. Though not SPAM in the same sense as the twat brady etc.....the desire to acquire profit from others medical conditions is unequivically there for all to see. IMO that is unwanted in this type of NG. The facillity is not new, not completely free, gathers data for profit and denies responsibility and afford no security for your personal information. [Your Property] This bloke is a Business Manager at a Medical Facility and as such IMO see's patients as fee paying customers - punters. $$$$$$$$ on the hoof. My POV YMMV Pete Diagnosed 20/03/03 Type II D&E + Metformin + Gliclazide + Asprin 210lbs at Dx to BMI 166lbs achieved. To mail: aspen at freeuk.com
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 12:46:13 +0000, Pete >On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 23:00:55 +1100, Alan > > >>On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 21:34:06 -0600, RB >>>On 29 Feb 2004 18:26:52 -0800, mboeselager@wi.rr.com (Mike) wrote: >>>>I just wanted to invite everyone to visit www.dia-log.com. This is a free >>>>online diabetes management website. Enjoy! > >>>Why does one have to sign up for a freebe? Just what information are >>>you collecting and better yet who are you giving this information to? >>>FREE ME ASS!!!!!! >>> Move along now SPAMMER, nothing to see here! >>>rb > >>We do get a little paranoid here at times. > >I wouldn't say paranoia - perhaps over protective. with good >reason. > >>Actually, the site seems to have some interesting info, particularly if >>you're american and eat fast foods (there's a carb counter for all the >>chains, useless here), and I didn't see any advertising. > >There is no direct advertising, the function is not to make >money out of adlinks > >>I logged in as user "dilog", password dilog, email dilog@dilog.net if >>you want to check it out safely. It let me in without hassle, and let me >>view without problems when I rejected cookies. > >It will do because it has been constructed that way. The >intent is to allow data input for all who want to use it >without restriction. Hence the validity of your email was >not checked. Why? Read on. > >>At least whoever designed it seems to have some knowledge of diabetes. > >And the desire to acquire more but in data form. > >>The log-book system may be useful to some; I couldn't care less if >>someone is harvesting the info from that, particularly if it is used to >>research the disease. > >Information like this entered into a publicly accessible >facillity ought to be secured. It is not. Why? > >>So, unless someone can show that there's some ulterior motive, I >>personally feel that labelling this post as spam is a little harsh at >>this stage. > >Your overly liberal views will lead you into bother >occasionally :-)) > >>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >www.dia-log.com. > >Disclaimer: Dia-log.com is intented for information purposes >only. > >*** and is not responsible for any uses of entered or >supplied information.*** >Please seek advice from your health care provider before >using this site or adjusting any insulin doses. > >*** Dia-log.com is not responsible for any information >obtained or read from the site.*** > Clicking Save, indicates you've read and agreed to this >statement. >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Now you ask yourself why would anyone go to all the bother >of putting up a fairly good and functional web site and >registering a domain and the set up etc? Not for the fun of >it. Perhaps public spirited generosity and a desire to >selflessly help others? Bollocks!! Not in the US. Read on >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >http://www.businessnorth.com/viewarticle.asp?articleid=713 >Another graduate is Mike Boeselager, surgical services >business manager at Miller-Dwan Medical Center. After >finishing the two-year Duluth program, he pursued a >bachelor's degree in supervisory management at Concordia >College in St. Paul, taught in the accelerated model. > >He and his 16 classmates finished in 16 months. The two-year >program was well done, but the cohort program definitely >would been a benefit, he said. > >With the cohort, there are smaller groups and deeper >interaction. You really share a lot and get to know each >others’ businessess, Boeselager said. >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Mike Boeselager, surgical services business manager at >Miller-Dwan Medical Center................ > >Well done Mike............ >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >http://www.diabetesnet.com/diabetes_technology/software.php > >Mike Boeselager created his Dia-Log on the web for entering >blood sugars, insulin doses, and foods by hand. Has some >nice custom reports. Price: 30 days free, then $19.95/year. >http://www.geometry.net/detail/basic_d/diabetes_&_diet_page_no_2.html > >Mike Boeselager created his Dia-Log on the web for entering >blood sugars, insulin doses, and foods by hand. Has some >nice custom reports. Price: 30 days free, then $19.95/year. > >AND there you have it..............................a small >side line to supplement?? Whatever. > >IMO the post was a clear device to get people to use the >site. Why? It is insecure and there is a disclaimer which >you agree to in effect freely providing data. Data which in >volume and under certain criterion can be resold. > >I am bored with this now.................. > >Though not SPAM in the same sense as the twat brady >etc.....the desire to acquire profit from others medical >conditions is unequivically there for all to see. IMO that >is unwanted in this type of NG. The facillity is not new, >not completely free, gathers data for profit and denies >responsibility and afford no security for your personal >information. [Your Property] This bloke is a Business >Manager at a Medical Facility and as such IMO see's patients >as fee paying customers - punters. $$$$$$$$ on the hoof. > >My POV > >YMMV > >Pete > >Diagnosed 20/03/03 Type II D&E + Metformin + Gliclazide >+ Asprin 210lbs at Dx to BMI 166lbs achieved. >To mail: aspen at freeuk.com Hi Pete Thanks for all the research. Educate me - how did you do all that? I must admit, I didn't see the hook. I suppose there is SPAM - herbal supplements, snake oil, bulk mail etc, and"spam" - this sort of thing. However, I accept that they are both unwanted on the ng. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. -- Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
I will apologize for controversy created by my post. Please read my reply post to the group, and then I will graciously accept that this forum is not the correct place for my original email and will stop. A couple of concerns were generated that I'd like to quickly address: 1. I'm not the Mike Boeselager that the research indicates. I'm a 15 year diabetic that also know's how to program and do graphical design, not a medical graduate working with the medical field. 2. I will be making the site secure, and have applied for a security certificate. 3. I do not sell any information, or accept any money from anyone. 4. When I originally started the site, I had an idea of making it fee based (19.95). Then came to concensus a couple of years ago, that it detered people from using the site. 5. Enjoy using the site for free, since there aren't many available. Thanks for your understanding and will cease with these types of postings. Mike Boeselager 1 2 Next » Related Discussion: www.flyingrat.net (2 posts) TAHITIAN NONI Juice (1 posts) cheap source? (3 posts) Atherosclerosis Begins Early in Type 1 Diabetes Patients (1 posts) Top Discussions From Our Archives Re: the scam site trueloves.com is owned by the pervert matt parker from cottage grove oregon *****GET THE TOXIC CHEMICALS OUT OF YOUR HOME***** Glucosamine from Usana Health Sciences The Third National Clinical Conference on Cannabis Therapeutics !!!THIS REALLY DOES WORK!!! I AM SO ECSTATIC! MAKE MONEY FAST LEGALLY! Other Discussion Categories Diabetes Symptoms Health Care Policy Health Care Providers HMO Arthritis Symptoms
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