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"isabelle penman" news:l%C9d.12518$gs1.405@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net... > Any advice from other long term type 2 diabetics would be appreciated. I > have an eating disorder and have trouble managing my diabetes. Any > psychology strategy? Any recipes for things that taste good and are good > for a diabetic. > > -- > Isabelle Penman > > Hi Isabelle,,,,, As a person who has put on over 40 lbs in the past 10 years with type 2,,,, I can only say I am pulling for you and if you get a good answer,,,,, I might try it also. Harv
isabelle penman wrote: > Any advice from other long term type 2 diabetics would be > appreciated. I have an eating disorder and have trouble > managing my > diabetes. Any psychology strategy? Any recipes for things > that > taste good and are good for a diabetic. The psychology that I used is based on the known side-effects of poor BG control. I choose not to be blind, I choose to have my kidneys functioning properly, I choose to minimize my chances of heart problems, I choose to live a long productive and health life. It makes me feel good about myself when my morning FBGs are in the 75 to 90 (4.0 to 5.0) range consistantly. This from someone who ran FBGs in the 130 to 150 range at one time. The secret is your meter, determine what and how much you can eat. It means eliminating some things, cutting back on others, and increasing some. See these websites to start your education. http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/risk.htm http://www.diabetes-normalsugars.com/ There have also been several recipes of interest posted on alt.food.diabetic in recent days. BJ
Hi Isabelle. I'm Tony from Australia and have just been very recently diagnosed myself (almost 7 weeks). But like you I also am a person who just loves my food. As BJ has just written to you, the best psychology to use is to get educated on the complications of this shocking disease. Once you are educated about the complications. The next thing you need to do is to understand - that is wrap your mind around the fact - that if you do stay in control of your BGL's 90% or more of these complications can be avoided. So the incentive to eat right becomes a positive incentive. Think of how much more you will be able to do when you do get the weight down. Stay in this group and read your replies and other peoples messages. Understand that you are in no way alone and the huge majority in this group and other diabetes support groups only have your best interests at heart. Do as I have done and make the most of any advice that you get. If you are really having problems staying away from the foods you really love, then try at least to have much smaller doses. For example, if you love chocolate and I have never met a woman yet that doesn't (that's not sexist, just a statement of fact). Then instead of buying a 100 or 200 gram block of chocolate and eating half or all of it in one sitting. Buy an expensive box of chocolates, the ones that are individually wrapped and just have one a day as your reward for doing well in your discipline. I'm afraid that this is problem for all of us. The "diet" we are all on now is a little different for everybody. You will find out from your meter what foods raises your bgl's and what foods don't. Try and eat very small portions of those foods that don't (and their not all Brussels sprouts). There is even a big list of foods that we call free foods, which basically means you can as much as you of them. I encourage you to look into low GI foods, buy a book that gives you a list of GI values and you will be surprised at how many foods that you like are actually good for you. The problems are the amounts you eat. If you're like me and I would guess you are, you find it very hard to stop at the suggested portion size, you still feel hungry after eating 30grams of cereal. Well have your cereal, then have a piece of fruit, but look in that GI book to find out what fruit is low in GI. a good website to get into is http://www.mendosa.com this man is a god send to a lot of us. Just work your way through the page and do it slowly. Don't try and cram yourself with facts unless you are like me and love to learn. If you haven't already come across them, these are a couple of other user groups for you. Again I encourage you to subscribe to them and post a message as a newbie. We all love to hear from newbies. alt.support.diabetes alt.support.diabetes.uk misc.health.diabetes and a really good one for recipes is alt.food.diabetic this is a great one to sift through for recipes. I also encourage to look out for diabetic cookbooks (as recent as you can get them). Again, you'll be surprised at the food you can actually eat. Just remember that there is a whole world out there of information and support. You've just gotta take the step of holding out your hand for it and there will be people waiting in line to take that hand and help guide you. Don't think you are weak for asking for advice. My mother always said to me (not to say that I remember much of what mum says) but this one thing I will always remember and I'm sure you've heard it before. You'll never know unless you ask. I would add to that "you'll never know unless you ask or read." research and knowledge are your best weapon to get on top. With the Internet and these support groups and your diabetes team there is a never ending fountain of all three. JUST ASK. Anyway all the best and I hope some of this helps feel free to either reply a post on here or email me at danlo@iprimus.com.au Tony On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:08:23 GMT, "BJ in Texas" wrote: >isabelle penman wrote: >> Any advice from other long term type 2 diabetics would be >> appreciated. I have an eating disorder and have trouble >> managing my >> diabetes. Any psychology strategy? Any recipes for things >> that >> taste good and are good for a diabetic. > >The psychology that I used is based on the known side-effects >of poor BG control. I choose not to be blind, I choose to have >my kidneys functioning properly, I choose to minimize my >chances of heart problems, I choose to live a long productive >and health life. It makes me feel good about myself when my >morning FBGs are in the 75 to 90 (4.0 to 5.0) range >consistantly. >This from someone who ran FBGs in the 130 to 150 range at >one time. > >The secret is your meter, determine what and how much you can >eat. It means eliminating some things, cutting back on others, >and >increasing some. See these websites to start your education. > >http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm >http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/risk.htm >http://www.diabetes-normalsugars.com/ > >There have also been several recipes of interest posted on >alt.food.diabetic in recent days. > >BJ > > >
Well said from down under. Harv "Anthony Galea" news:j4tom0125gohik2f33nf6ud13uu7iqhrtc@4ax.com... > Hi Isabelle. I'm Tony from Australia and have just been very recently > diagnosed myself (almost 7 weeks). But like you I also am a person who > just loves my food. > > As BJ has just written to you, the best psychology to use is to get > educated on the complications of this shocking disease. Once you are > educated about the complications. The next thing you need to do is to > understand - that is wrap your mind around the fact - that if you do > stay in control of your BGL's 90% or more of these complications can > be avoided. > > So the incentive to eat right becomes a positive incentive. Think of > how much more you will be able to do when you do get the weight down. > Stay in this group and read your replies and other peoples messages. > Understand that you are in no way alone and the huge majority in this > group and other diabetes support groups only have your best interests > at heart. > > Do as I have done and make the most of any advice that you get. If you > are really having problems staying away from the foods you really > love, then try at least to have much smaller doses. For example, if > you love chocolate and I have never met a woman yet that doesn't > (that's not sexist, just a statement of fact). Then instead of buying > a 100 or 200 gram block of chocolate and eating half or all of it in > one sitting. Buy an expensive box of chocolates, the ones that are > individually wrapped and just have one a day as your reward for doing > well in your discipline. > > I'm afraid that this is problem for all of us. The "diet" we are all > on now is a little different for everybody. You will find out from > your meter what foods raises your bgl's and what foods don't. Try and > eat very small portions of those foods that don't (and their not all > Brussels sprouts). There is even a big list of foods that we call free > foods, which basically means you can as much as you of them. > > I encourage you to look into low GI foods, buy a book that gives you a > list of GI values and you will be surprised at how many foods that you > like are actually good for you. The problems are the amounts you eat. > > If you're like me and I would guess you are, you find it very hard to > stop at the suggested portion size, you still feel hungry after eating > 30grams of cereal. Well have your cereal, then have a piece of fruit, > but look in that GI book to find out what fruit is low in GI. > > a good website to get into is > http://www.mendosa.com > > this man is a god send to a lot of us. Just work your way through the > page and do it slowly. Don't try and cram yourself with facts unless > you are like me and love to learn. > > If you haven't already come across them, these are a couple of other > user groups for you. Again I encourage you to subscribe to them and > post a message as a newbie. We all love to hear from newbies. > > alt.support.diabetes > alt.support.diabetes.uk > misc.health.diabetes and a really good one for recipes is > alt.food.diabetic this is a great one to sift through > for recipes. > > I also encourage to look out for diabetic cookbooks (as recent as you > can get them). Again, you'll be surprised at the food you can actually > eat. > > Just remember that there is a whole world out there of information and > support. You've just gotta take the step of holding out your hand for > it and there will be people waiting in line to take that hand and help > guide you. > > Don't think you are weak for asking for advice. My mother always said > to me (not to say that I remember much of what mum says) but this one > thing I will always remember and I'm sure you've heard it before. > You'll never know unless you ask. I would add to that "you'll never > know unless you ask or read." > > research and knowledge are your best weapon to get on top. With the > Internet and these support groups and your diabetes team there is a > never ending fountain of all three. JUST ASK. > > Anyway all the best and I hope some of this helps > > feel free to either reply a post on here or email me at > danlo@iprimus.com.au > > Tony > On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:08:23 GMT, "BJ in Texas" > wrote: > >>isabelle penman wrote: >>> Any advice from other long term type 2 diabetics would be >>> appreciated. I have an eating disorder and have trouble >>> managing my >>> diabetes. Any psychology strategy? Any recipes for things >>> that >>> taste good and are good for a diabetic. >> >>The psychology that I used is based on the known side-effects >>of poor BG control. I choose not to be blind, I choose to have >>my kidneys functioning properly, I choose to minimize my >>chances of heart problems, I choose to live a long productive >>and health life. It makes me feel good about myself when my >>morning FBGs are in the 75 to 90 (4.0 to 5.0) range >>consistantly. >>This from someone who ran FBGs in the 130 to 150 range at >>one time. >> >>The secret is your meter, determine what and how much you can >>eat. It means eliminating some things, cutting back on others, >>and >>increasing some. See these websites to start your education. >> >>http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm >>http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/risk.htm >>http://www.diabetes-normalsugars.com/ >> >>There have also been several recipes of interest posted on >>alt.food.diabetic in recent days. >> >>BJ >> >> >> >
Thanks BJ,,,, Good information. The truth of it is that the rest is up to me and my doctor. Harv "BJ in Texas" news:XOPad.4787$q%7.4391@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com... > isabelle penman wrote: >> Any advice from other long term type 2 diabetics would be >> appreciated. I have an eating disorder and have trouble managing my >> diabetes. Any psychology strategy? Any recipes for things that >> taste good and are good for a diabetic. > > The psychology that I used is based on the known side-effects > of poor BG control. I choose not to be blind, I choose to have > my kidneys functioning properly, I choose to minimize my > chances of heart problems, I choose to live a long productive > and health life. It makes me feel good about myself when my > morning FBGs are in the 75 to 90 (4.0 to 5.0) range consistantly. > This from someone who ran FBGs in the 130 to 150 range at > one time. > > The secret is your meter, determine what and how much you can > eat. It means eliminating some things, cutting back on others, and > increasing some. See these websites to start your education. > > http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm > http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/risk.htm > http://www.diabetes-normalsugars.com/ > > There have also been several recipes of interest posted on > alt.food.diabetic in recent days. > > BJ > > > > Related Discussion: Enbrel (8 posts) VIOXX - MERCK - MEDCO - A CASE STUDY (1 posts) MSM (2 posts) Glucosamine Sulfate question---- (4 posts) Top Discussions From Our Archives Sternoclavicular joint swelling Hemosiderin / iron / arthritis Other Discussion Categories Diabetes Symptoms Health Care Policy Health Care Providers HMO Arthritis Symptoms
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