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Losing weight on insulin Re: Losing weight on insulin -- Posted by Bob Coles on 10-24-04 07:44
"Alan" wrote in message
news:qpsmn05lp1gg8l4fmm6qits92amaskjvt0@4ax.com... > On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 05:28:24 GMT, "Bob Coles"
> wrote:
>
>>I am an obese type 2 diabetic, who used a heck of insulin (ca. 200 units
>>daily). I found it impossible to lose weight and in desperation tried a
>>diet which I was really sceptical about. That was I was sceptical until I
>>saw the results. In 6 weeks I have lost 14 lbs - OK not so dramatic, but
>>a
>>healthy rate to lose weight, right? The dramatic results are in blood
>>glucose control and insulin usage.
>>I dropped from 12.5 mmol/l (225 in US numbers) average down to 5.4 mmol/l
>>(97 in US numbers). That was while cutting back from 198 units/d to 136
>>units/d because of "lows". I can't wait to see my next A1c. The great
>>thing is this diet leaves me with no hunger without resorting to
>>prescription drugs. Check out this website www.downsizewallet-u.com
>>Bob
>>
>>
> Hi Bob
>
> You're either the promoter of that web-site - in which case you're a
> parasite sucking the blood from diabetics; or you are truly a diabetic
> in which case you are a credulous idiot.
>
> Design your own diet - as I did (and anyone can), using common sense.
> Email me and I'll send you a (free) copy. It ain't rocket science and it
> costs absolutely nothing. Do a little exercise. And test, test, test
> your Bgs as I did (and anyone can), using Jennifer's advice at
> http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm .
>
> It works, which is something I seriously doubt about that Herbalife
> web-site.
>
> Cheers Alan, T2, Australia.
> Remove weight and carbs to email.
> --
> dx May 2002 , A1C 8.2=>5.9, wt 117kg(257)=>95kg(209),
> Diet and not enough exercise.
> I have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience.
> Choose your advisers carefully, because experience can be
> an expensive teacher.
>
> Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
Hi Alan,
I suppose I am both. I have diabetic for almost 10 years and in that time
have never found a diet that I could stick to for any length of time. I
have now found one, I became a distributor and thought I would share it with
people who might be in the same situation.
Bob
Re: Losing weight on insulin -- Posted by Ignoramus25710 on 10-24-04 08:51
Bob, just a friendly bit of advice, you will not go very far trying to
sell Herbalife here. You are wasting your time, at best. Not one of
the reader of these newsgroups -- at least the ones that I read -- has
any interest in Herbalife, and not for the lack of information and
definitely not due to lack of herbalife spammers. We had many
herbalife spammers come and go.
i
Re: Losing weight on insulin -- Posted by Bob Coles on 10-24-04 09:09
"Ignoramus25710" wrote in message
news:clgj1c$2pi$2@pita.alt.net... > Bob, just a friendly bit of advice, you will not go very far trying to
> sell Herbalife here. You are wasting your time, at best. Not one of
> the reader of these newsgroups -- at least the ones that I read -- has
> any interest in Herbalife, and not for the lack of information and
> definitely not due to lack of herbalife spammers. We had many
> herbalife spammers come and go.
>
> i
I appreciate the advice. I was surprised by the intensely negative response
I got from many people. In future I shall restrict any posting I make to
questions and issues that noone can take offence at.
Bob
Re: Losing weight on insulin -- Posted by Ignoramus25710 on 10-24-04 10:21
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:09:48 GMT, Bob Coles wrote: >
> "Ignoramus25710" wrote in message
> news:clgj1c$2pi$2@pita.alt.net...
>> Bob, just a friendly bit of advice, you will not go very far trying to
>> sell Herbalife here. You are wasting your time, at best. Not one of
>> the reader of these newsgroups -- at least the ones that I read -- has
>> any interest in Herbalife, and not for the lack of information and
>> definitely not due to lack of herbalife spammers. We had many
>> herbalife spammers come and go.
>>
>> i
>
> I appreciate the advice. I was surprised by the intensely negative
> response I got from many people. In future I shall restrict any
> posting I make to questions and issues that noone can take offence
> at.
I am glad that my suggestion was helpful. People become so upset when
they hear word "herbalife", partly because it was hawked here a little
bit too much to anyone's taste.
If you are a diabetic who is interested in dieting in general, many
newsgroups here would offer good venues for discussing issues relevant
to you. I suggest to not mention "herbalife" or your commercial
website at all if you want to maintain a useful conversation.
I own a few commercial websites myself and I know how hard it is to
resist trying to promote them. And yet, often, the best course of
action is to not overdo it.
--
223/172.5/180
Re: Losing weight on insulin -- Posted by Nico Kadel-Garcia on 10-24-04 12:23
"Ignoramus25710" wrote in message
news:clgj1c$2pi$2@pita.alt.net... > Bob, just a friendly bit of advice, you will not go very far trying to
> sell Herbalife here. You are wasting your time, at best. Not one of
> the reader of these newsgroups -- at least the ones that I read -- has
> any interest in Herbalife, and not for the lack of information and
> definitely not due to lack of herbalife spammers. We had many
> herbalife spammers come and go.
Even if they did, so many, many spammers send unsolicited bulk
advertisements like this that the form advertisements are considered "cancel
on siight" spam.
Re: Losing weight on insulin -- Posted by Alan on 10-24-04 13:42
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:44:33 GMT, "Bob Coles"
wrote:
>
>"Alan" wrote in message
>news:qpsmn05lp1gg8l4fmm6qits92amaskjvt0@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 05:28:24 GMT, "Bob Coles"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I am an obese type 2 diabetic, who used a heck of insulin (ca. 200 units
>>>daily). I found it impossible to lose weight and in desperation tried a
>>>diet which I was really sceptical about. That was I was sceptical until I
>>>saw the results. In 6 weeks I have lost 14 lbs - OK not so dramatic, but
>>>a
>>>healthy rate to lose weight, right? The dramatic results are in blood
>>>glucose control and insulin usage.
>>>I dropped from 12.5 mmol/l (225 in US numbers) average down to 5.4 mmol/l
>>>(97 in US numbers). That was while cutting back from 198 units/d to 136
>>>units/d because of "lows". I can't wait to see my next A1c. The great
>>>thing is this diet leaves me with no hunger without resorting to
>>>prescription drugs. Check out this website www.downsizewallet-u.com
>>>Bob
>>>
>>>
>> Hi Bob
>>
>> You're either the promoter of that web-site - in which case you're a
>> parasite sucking the blood from diabetics; or you are truly a diabetic
>> in which case you are a credulous idiot.
>>
>> Design your own diet - as I did (and anyone can), using common sense.
>> Email me and I'll send you a (free) copy. It ain't rocket science and it
>> costs absolutely nothing. Do a little exercise. And test, test, test
>> your Bgs as I did (and anyone can), using Jennifer's advice at
>> http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm .
>>
>> It works, which is something I seriously doubt about that Herbalife
>> web-site.
>>
>> Cheers Alan, T2, Australia.
>> Remove weight and carbs to email.
>> --
>> dx May 2002 , A1C 8.2=>5.9, wt 117kg(257)=>95kg(209),
>> Diet and not enough exercise.
>> I have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience.
>> Choose your advisers carefully, because experience can be
>> an expensive teacher.
>>
>> Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
>
>
>Hi Alan,
>I suppose I am both. I have diabetic for almost 10 years and in that time
>have never found a diet that I could stick to for any length of time. I
>have now found one, I became a distributor and thought I would share it with
>people who might be in the same situation.
>Bob
>
Bob
You said to ig that you were surprised at the surprised by the
"intensely negative response". That was naive at best. This was a mild
reaction compared to some.
I don't care about Herbalife - that wasn't the point. NO spam of any
sort by anyone is appreciated on any of the serious disease sites. I
left the x-posts in this time because I don't know which site you are
reading, but mass x-posting is not appreciated either.
And if you made Herbalife work, you can make any diet work. It's not the
product that succeeds in a diet, it's the attitude and discipline of the
dieter.
Read my post again; it was serious advice that may be the best you've
heard as a diabetic - because it's simple, practical and it works. If
you want to re-introduce yourself on usenet as a diabetic looking to
share non-commercial advice you may be welcome, but you've got a
negative start to overcome.
Alan, T2 d&e, Australia.
--
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
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