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newly diagnosed and worried


newly diagnosed and worried -- Posted by Raunchy Rev on 08-21-03 03:58


Hi all,
I have just been diagnosed as type 2 diabetic and am awaiting test results
to find out if I will be insulin dependent. I am on glucovance at this time
and have gone to a 1600 calorie a day diet and exercize for 15 to 30 minutes
on a home gym. I have joined webMD and checked out several websites on
diabetes.

However, none of this has relieved me of the gnawing worry. My
great-grandfather died from diabetic complications when I was just a child.

Any suggestions on treatment or control of this damnable killer would be
appreciated.

Thanks
Rev


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Re: newly diagnosed and worried -- Posted by Joe Durusau on 08-21-03 07:15




Raunchy Rev wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have just been diagnosed as type 2 diabetic and am awaiting test results
> to find out if I will be insulin dependent. I am on glucovance at this time
> and have gone to a 1600 calorie a day diet and exercize for 15 to 30 minutes
> on a home gym. I have joined webMD and checked out several websites on
> diabetes.
>
> However, none of this has relieved me of the gnawing worry. My
> great-grandfather died from diabetic complications when I was just a child.
>
> Any suggestions on treatment or control of this damnable killer would be
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Rev
>
>
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Sorry, rev. Welcome to the club that nobody wants to join.
You might check out Rick Mendoza's diaetic FAQ first of all. It has
a lot of good references in it. I would wait a month or so to let
your diet settle out and see what happens before making any plans for
further changes. The most important thing to remember is that
changes in diet, lifestyle, etc. have to be permanent to work,
so take it in small steps. Good luck.

Speaking only for myself,

Joe Durusau



Re: newly diagnosed and worried -- Posted by GS on 08-21-03 15:11




"Raunchy Rev" skrev i melding
news:cB11b.6178$B8.1672@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Hi all,
> I have just been diagnosed as type 2 diabetic and am awaiting test results
> to find out if I will be insulin dependent. I am on glucovance at this
time
> and have gone to a 1600 calorie a day diet and exercize for 15 to 30
minutes
> on a home gym. I have joined webMD and checked out several websites on
> diabetes.
>
> However, none of this has relieved me of the gnawing worry. My

> great-grandfather died from diabetic complications when I was just a
child.
>
> Any suggestions on treatment or control of this damnable killer would be

> appreciated.
>

My suggestion for treatment is what you say you are doing. Weight loss and
exercise!
Altmost every type 2 diabetic, that is overweighted, will improve the BG by
losing weight and excersie.

If you get diagnosed early in the disease, you it's very possible that you
will get non-diabetic numbers.
But you must lose 5-10% (or more) of your weight(if you are "fat") and you
should excercise 30 min every day.

You should also try to lower your intake of carbohydrates.

If you do this it's possible that you can hold the disease away for many,
many years! Maybe even to you are 80 :-)

My personal experience is that you should go on an diet that you think you
can live with for the rest of your life. The same with the amount of
excercise. If you start out to fast you maybe get tired of it, and go back
to old habbits.

I exercise 45 min every day now. Some days i do 30 min, but then i do 60 the
next day. My exercise is walking(fast), biking, weigt lifting.
The first 2 years i did 30 min every day. I guess that i had dropped out if
i had stared out on 45. Now it's no problem.

I try to be carfull with calories and carbo 5 days a week. On the 2 other
days i eat little more freely. In the last 3 years(almost) i have done
this. I guess that i had dropped out if it was't for the 2 days.

GS
FBG 2001:147
FBG 2003:92
HBA1C: 4.5%(3.5-6.5)
No med, just exercise and diet



Re: newly diagnosed and worried -- Posted by d21044 on 08-29-03 15:19



Hey Rev,

The life saver for me has been my doctor. I have had diabetes for some time
now and if it had not been for my endocrinologist, I am sure my present
condition would not be as good as it is, He praises my positive and jovial
attitude and I tell him he is why I can have that attitude and be somewhat
worry-free. I think having an internet group of people who can share
experience is fantastic and we can learn a great deal from each others
experiences. There are even those rare times when I'm sure there are many
similarities between members of a group and that also is very helpful for
dealing with your health. BUT I am one who is very careful about asking
for advice. I have learned to ask for dialogue about their or my experiences
but straight our advice is a very tricky business at best. It does not
matter how long you have been diabetic, one is NOT as much an expert as the
one who has the title endocrinologist.

I am 55yo and came home last Wednesday from having my first heart attack and
subsequent angioplasty . I was home the day after that procedure and I'm
doing so well the doctors can hardly believe it. I call it ATTITUDE. I am
well overweight and stick closer to my 1800 calorie eating regime these
days. I learned that this is why diabetes has been caused the silent killer.
I had no significant signs of there being a problem with my heart. Never had
high blood pressure nor high cholesterol and sodium levels and never had
chest pains or poor breathing. I had the chest pain and poor breathing for
the first time the day before going to the hospital. I am lucky in that
Johns Hopkins hospital is 20 minutes from my home. It was there that we
found out that my one of my main arteries was totally closed, one was barely
open and one was at its 1% operational level. The doctors soon concluded and
were able to thank our dear friend diabetes for doing all that so silently
as to not be detected until it was almost too late. I haven't had to change
much in my life except diet and some medications.

So there you have My Humble Opinion. I have a tool-free number that I will
give you should you ask. Then if you think an ear and a voice may be better
than an e-mail, fell free to use it at will to call and chat. I am a
college-age tutor in a home office so I am always here.

Don't worry about the diabetes, worry about the doctor who walks with you on
the path. And when he/she is as aggressive as possible, and goes to war on
your behalf searching for the newest and most up-to-date information,
medications, and equipment, your worry days will soon be gone and the result
will be a far better controlled diabetes due to a very positive ATTITUDE.
Don't think you can do this alone, you are not smarter nor stronger than
diabetes. Yes, much rests with you and how you handle what you need to but
all the great heroes are dead so its no time to be one. The doctor is there
all the way and now that you are here, there are people all around you and
we're all stuck together by diabetes. With these odds, I'm not so sure I'd
put all the bet on diabetes winning just yet. I know of some very fantastic
reversal and retardation events in the lives of other diabetics, so we know
it can be controlled to great extremes even though we can not kill totally.

Take time to be good to yourself and be well. Hope to hear from you here and
in private should you wish. d21044@comcast.net

D.McDonald

The wasted day is the one where you failed to laugh.
_________________________________________________________________________

"Raunchy Rev" wrote in message
news:cB11b.6178$B8.1672@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Hi all,
> I have just been diagnosed as type 2 diabetic and am awaiting test results
> to find out if I will be insulin dependent. I am on glucovance at this
time
> and have gone to a 1600 calorie a day diet and exercize for 15 to 30
minutes
> on a home gym. I have joined webMD and checked out several websites on
> diabetes.
>
> However, none of this has relieved me of the gnawing worry. My

> great-grandfather died from diabetic complications when I was just a
child.
>
> Any suggestions on treatment or control of this damnable killer would be

> appreciated.
>
> Thanks

> Rev
>
>

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Re: newly diagnosed and worried -- Posted by Raunchy Rev on 09-01-03 05:16


Like your sig line, though not much time to laugh these days.
I was diagnosed by a PA not a doctor, seems my doctor is AWOL and has been
for a while now. This kid seems to know next to nothing but this Dr's office
is the only one within 50 miles.

"d21044" wrote in message
news:Rnydnbr0CbW0TNKiXTWJkQ@comcast.com...
>
> Hey Rev,

>
> The life saver for me has been my doctor. I have had diabetes for some

time
> now and if it had not been for my endocrinologist, I am sure my present
> condition would not be as good as it is, He praises my positive and jovial
> attitude and I tell him he is why I can have that attitude and be somewhat
> worry-free. I think having an internet group of people who can share
> experience is fantastic and we can learn a great deal from each others
> experiences. There are even those rare times when I'm sure there are many
> similarities between members of a group and that also is very helpful for
> dealing with your health. BUT I am one who is very careful about asking
> for advice. I have learned to ask for dialogue about their or my
experiences
> but straight our advice is a very tricky business at best. It does not
> matter how long you have been diabetic, one is NOT as much an expert as
the
> one who has the title endocrinologist.
>
> I am 55yo and came home last Wednesday from having my first heart attack

and
> subsequent angioplasty . I was home the day after that procedure and I'm
> doing so well the doctors can hardly believe it. I call it ATTITUDE. I am
> well overweight and stick closer to my 1800 calorie eating regime these
> days. I learned that this is why diabetes has been caused the silent
killer.
> I had no significant signs of there being a problem with my heart. Never
had
> high blood pressure nor high cholesterol and sodium levels and never had
> chest pains or poor breathing. I had the chest pain and poor breathing for
> the first time the day before going to the hospital. I am lucky in that
> Johns Hopkins hospital is 20 minutes from my home. It was there that we
> found out that my one of my main arteries was totally closed, one was
barely
> open and one was at its 1% operational level. The doctors soon concluded
and
> were able to thank our dear friend diabetes for doing all that so silently
> as to not be detected until it was almost too late. I haven't had to
change
> much in my life except diet and some medications.
>
> So there you have My Humble Opinion. I have a tool-free number that I will

> give you should you ask. Then if you think an ear and a voice may be
better
> than an e-mail, fell free to use it at will to call and chat. I am a
> college-age tutor in a home office so I am always here.
>
> Don't worry about the diabetes, worry about the doctor who walks with you

on
> the path. And when he/she is as aggressive as possible, and goes to war on
> your behalf searching for the newest and most up-to-date information,
> medications, and equipment, your worry days will soon be gone and the
result
> will be a far better controlled diabetes due to a very positive ATTITUDE.
> Don't think you can do this alone, you are not smarter nor stronger than
> diabetes. Yes, much rests with you and how you handle what you need to but
> all the great heroes are dead so its no time to be one. The doctor is
there
> all the way and now that you are here, there are people all around you and
> we're all stuck together by diabetes. With these odds, I'm not so sure I'd
> put all the bet on diabetes winning just yet. I know of some very
fantastic
> reversal and retardation events in the lives of other diabetics, so we
know
> it can be controlled to great extremes even though we can not kill
totally.
>
> Take time to be good to yourself and be well. Hope to hear from you here

and
> in private should you wish. d21044@comcast.net
>
> D.McDonald

>
> The wasted day is the one where you failed to laugh.

> _________________________________________________________________________
>
> "Raunchy Rev" wrote in message

> news:cB11b.6178$B8.1672@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > Hi all,
> > I have just been diagnosed as type 2 diabetic and am awaiting test
results
> > to find out if I will be insulin dependent. I am on glucovance at this
> time
> > and have gone to a 1600 calorie a day diet and exercize for 15 to 30
> minutes
> > on a home gym. I have joined webMD and checked out several websites on
> > diabetes.
> >
> > However, none of this has relieved me of the gnawing worry. My
> > great-grandfather died from diabetic complications when I was just a
> child.
> >
> > Any suggestions on treatment or control of this damnable killer would be
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Rev
> >
> >
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> >
> >
>
>



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Re: newly diagnosed and worried -- Posted by Irv Finkleman on 09-10-03 23:18


Raunchy Rev wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I have just been diagnosed as type 2 diabetic and am awaiting test results
> to find out if I will be insulin dependent. ...

If you can avoid insulin, and control it with diet and exercise as I
have done, then great! You might want to take a look at alt.support.diet.low-carb where
you will find lots of us Type II's hanging out. I was given a month
before my doctor prescribed any medications by which time I had dropped 25
pounds! The weight loss alone was sufficient to permit me to remain medication free!
Hope this helps!

Don't panic -- we all get that horrible dread when first diagnosed, but more
and more type II's, with a little bit of care, are living a very normal life.

Irv
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Beating it with diet and exercise!
297/215/210 (to be revised lower)
58"/43"(!)/44" (already lower too!)
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