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Hello, Susan. First, alt.health.diabetes is not a very active group. There's more traffic at alt.support.diabetes or alt.support.diabetes.uk. I'll crosspost my answer over there. On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:47:08 -0600, Susan Kennedy wrote: > Diabetes runs in my family. As a result, I get tested every year or two. > > Last year, I had my gallbladder out. The day before, in doing tests that > had to be done before the operation, they included a blood sugar test. It > was evidently high enough for me to be considered diabetic, but the average > blood sugar was not, and nothing was said to me. This was in May. By 'average', do you mean A1c or HBa1c (same thing)? It's possible for the A1c to be normal but still have diabetes. The highs and lows might cancel each other out in the average, but they would still be dangerous. It's like a high desert country where it gets too hot in day and too cold at night, but the average could be 70F. :) > In June I was laid off. > > In September or October, I had another test run, being unaware that one had > been done in May. At that time, I had just started a new diet and exercise > regimen. The test came back with an average blood sugar that rated me as > pre-diabetic. The blood sugar for that day, however, was in the diabetic > range. Definitions and standards of 'diabetic' vs 'pre-diabetic' vary a lot. > At that time, I had been unemployed for over 3 months. I was told > by the PA who ordered the test that I was pre-diabetic. Later, the > diagnoses was changed to diabetic, I suspect at the instigation of the woman > who runs the local diabetic education classes and who I also suspect > receives money for her program based on the number of diagnosed cases in the > area (I know her money comes from grants). They might have been using different definitions/standards. People on Usenet may have a different standard yet. :) > > It is my understanding that stress raises your blood sugar, and I am > confused, and have been unable to get satisfactory answers from my health > care providers as to why the blood sugar for those two (high stress) days is > more important than the average blood sugar that gave a different result. > Even more confusing is that every time I have actually *tested* my blood > sugar, Do you have your own meter? How much does it cost you for test strips? Some people test quite a lot to figure out what's going on. > it has come out in the normal range, probably the result of the > exercise regimen I have managed to stick to, even when I went off the diet. > At first, I attributed the normal blood sugar readings to the pills they > gave me, but when I ran out of pills, I couldn't afford to get more (my > income has been cut in half), and yet the readings continued to come out in > the normal range. > > Should I be getting a second opinion here? One of the reasons I've given up > on the diet is that the whole thing has become discouraging, especially not > being able to get an understandable answer to my questions. The more you test on your own, and keep a food journal, the more info you'd have for this team or for another doctor. I'm sure others will have better answers than mine. Good luck, Skinny
"Susan Kennedy" news:34m2apF4c3ehqU1@individual.net... >> At first, I attributed the normal blood sugar readings to the pills they > gave me, but when I ran out of pills, I couldn't afford to get more (my > income has been cut in half), and yet the readings continued to come out in > the normal range. > > Should I be getting a second opinion here? One of the reasons I've given up > on the diet is that the whole thing has become discouraging, especially not > being able to get an understandable answer to my questions. Doctor shopping may find you one who uses different criteria for a diagnosis, but a second opinion won't change your numbers. Diabetes is progressive, it keeps getting worse. What we want to do is slow down how fast it does that. Any doctor shopping you do should be to find a better standard of care, but you have to be the one who sets the standard. Do check out these links. http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm news:alt.support.diabetes (your killfile is your friend, lots of gems buried in tons of crap)
Could you give us some actual numbers? Its impossible to know whether you are being told you are diabetic falsely without knowing what all the tests results were. "Susan Kennedy" news:34m2apF4c3ehqU1@individual.net... > Diabetes runs in my family. As a result, I get tested every year or two. > > Last year, I had my gallbladder out. The day before, in doing tests that > had to be done before the operation, they included a blood sugar test. It > was evidently high enough for me to be considered diabetic, but the average > blood sugar was not, and nothing was said to me. This was in May. > > In June I was laid off. > > In September or October, I had another test run, being unaware that one had > been done in May. At that time, I had just started a new diet and exercise > regimen. The test came back with an average blood sugar that rated me as > pre-diabetic. The blood sugar for that day, however, was in the diabetic > range. At that time, I had been unemployed for over 3 months. I was told > by the PA who ordered the test that I was pre-diabetic. Later, the > diagnoses was changed to diabetic, I suspect at the instigation of the woman > who runs the local diabetic education classes and who I also suspect > receives money for her program based on the number of diagnosed cases in the > area (I know her money comes from grants). > > It is my understanding that stress raises your blood sugar, and I am > confused, and have been unable to get satisfactory answers from my health > care providers as to why the blood sugar for those two (high stress) days is > more important than the average blood sugar that gave a different result. > Even more confusing is that every time I have actually *tested* my blood > sugar, it has come out in the normal range, probably the result of the > exercise regimen I have managed to stick to, even when I went off the diet. > At first, I attributed the normal blood sugar readings to the pills they > gave me, but when I ran out of pills, I couldn't afford to get more (my > income has been cut in half), and yet the readings continued to come out in > the normal range. > > Should I be getting a second opinion here? One of the reasons I've given up > on the diet is that the whole thing has become discouraging, especially not > being able to get an understandable answer to my questions. > >
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:47:08 -0600, "Susan Kennedy" madness of usenet: >Diabetes runs in my family. As a result, I get tested every year or two. > >Last year, I had my gallbladder out. The day before, in doing tests that >had to be done before the operation, they included a blood sugar test. It >was evidently high enough for me to be considered diabetic, but the average >blood sugar was not, and nothing was said to me. This was in May. > >In June I was laid off. > >In September or October, I had another test run, being unaware that one had >been done in May. At that time, I had just started a new diet and exercise >regimen. The test came back with an average blood sugar that rated me as >pre-diabetic. The blood sugar for that day, however, was in the diabetic >range. At that time, I had been unemployed for over 3 months. I was told >by the PA who ordered the test that I was pre-diabetic. Later, the >diagnoses was changed to diabetic, I suspect at the instigation of the woman >who runs the local diabetic education classes and who I also suspect >receives money for her program based on the number of diagnosed cases in the >area (I know her money comes from grants). if a doctor based his diagnosis on that criteria he should be fired. > >It is my understanding that stress raises your blood sugar, and I am >confused, and have been unable to get satisfactory answers from my health >care providers as to why the blood sugar for those two (high stress) days is >more important than the average blood sugar that gave a different result. >Even more confusing is that every time I have actually *tested* my blood >sugar, it has come out in the normal range, probably the result of the >exercise regimen I have managed to stick to, even when I went off the diet. >At first, I attributed the normal blood sugar readings to the pills they >gave me, but when I ran out of pills, I couldn't afford to get more (my >income has been cut in half), and yet the readings continued to come out in >the normal range. > >Should I be getting a second opinion here? One of the reasons I've given up >on the diet is that the whole thing has become discouraging, especially not >being able to get an understandable answer to my questions. > what were the actual test readings/numbers and exactly what tests were they? Māck©® Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o o) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
go here www.mendosa.com I just bought a book by Gretchen Becker called type 2 Diabetes, it will tell you everything. It really is a tough to be a diabetic. Good Luck Greg I have had it for five years or more and just finding out about it. On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:47:08 -0600, Susan Kennedy wrote: > Diabetes runs in my family. As a result, I get tested every year or two. > > Last year, I had my gallbladder out. The day before, in doing tests that > had to be done before the operation, they included a blood sugar test. It > was evidently high enough for me to be considered diabetic, but the > average blood sugar was not, and nothing was said to me. This was in May. > > In June I was laid off. > > In September or October, I had another test run, being unaware that one > had been done in May. At that time, I had just started a new diet and > exercise regimen. The test came back with an average blood sugar that > rated me as pre-diabetic. The blood sugar for that day, however, was in > the diabetic range. At that time, I had been unemployed for over 3 > months. I was told by the PA who ordered the test that I was > pre-diabetic. Later, the diagnoses was changed to diabetic, I suspect at > the instigation of the woman who runs the local diabetic education classes > and who I also suspect receives money for her program based on the number > of diagnosed cases in the area (I know her money comes from grants). > > It is my understanding that stress raises your blood sugar, and I am > confused, and have been unable to get satisfactory answers from my health > care providers as to why the blood sugar for those two (high stress) days > is more important than the average blood sugar that gave a different > result. Even more confusing is that every time I have actually *tested* my > blood sugar, it has come out in the normal range, probably the result of > the exercise regimen I have managed to stick to, even when I went off the > diet. At first, I attributed the normal blood sugar readings to the pills > they gave me, but when I ran out of pills, I couldn't afford to get more > (my income has been cut in half), and yet the readings continued to come > out in the normal range. > > Should I be getting a second opinion here? One of the reasons I've given > up on the diet is that the whole thing has become discouraging, especially > not being able to get an understandable answer to my questions. 1 2 Next » Related Discussion: ()()()()()()()FREE PHONESEX -- girls call this service free 50cents for guys 4593 (1 posts) Do you qualify for Free Diabetic Supplies? (2 posts) Low Carb High Fat Dieting - Yahoo Group (2 posts) Prescription Drug Costs Cut Dramatically (1 posts) Top Discussions From Our Archives Meditation 2005 Online Class 1 Classes commence 1 January 2005 =============== yrawGMMB Other Discussion Categories Diabetes Symptoms Health Care Policy Health Care Providers HMO Arthritis Symptoms
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