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--- Blood Sugar Readings Normal, Do I need to continue Medication?
A diabetic can't eat or drink high carbohydrate foods without having higher blood glucose readings but if you were not a diabetic it wouldn't have mattered how much fruit juice you drank, your body would have been able to compensate for it. In other words your sugar was high because you - a DIABETIC was drinking juice NOT just because you were a person drinking a lot of juice. Now that your sugar has remained normal without medicine it is true you may not need the medicine -AT THIS TIME- but you will always be prone to blood glucose spikes. Watch what you eat - everything you eat with carbohydrates not just fruit juice can effect you. Also at any time you may find you have to return to the medicines - it seems as if most if not all diabetics lose more beta cell function as time goes on. So keep testing even if you are off your meds. Its true most pills list side effects. Its also true that herbs and supplements have side effects too they just don't usually list them on the bottle. A supplement that you put in your body can be as risky as a pill, sometimes more so. Just because something is 'natural' doesn't mean it is better safer. Its said that between 1/4 and 1/2 of our medicines come from nature yet we all consider them a medicine if the doctor gives them to us and a supplement or herb if we get them some other place. Either way we are putting something in our bodies. Digitalis and arsenic are natural but we sure wouldn't want to self dose with them. If you don't trust your doctor get a second opinion but don't try to self medicate with herbs unless you are an expert. "John" news:4WYId.221252$ye4.91077@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com... > My Doctor had me on Glucophage (Metformin) for 2 years. I started taking it > back in fall of 2002 when I was reading 200+ everyday. I had determined the > cause from drinking so much juices each day rather than water. I used to > buy a few gallons of Grape Juice, Lemonade, Pink Grapefruit, etc. It was > notice that I was losing weight for no reason, plus getting thirsty more > often. When I had my lab tests, I was reading 245 mg/dL. So I stopped > drinking the juices and started on the glucophage. Within a month and a > half I was keeping me readings between 90 and 135 mg/dL. > Medicine is dangerous and nobody should have to be on any type of medication > forever. Most pills list possible side effects. > > It is actually better to get on nutritional supplements, vitamins, minerals, > herbs, etc. Certain supplements are capable to nurish your body to resist > diabetes and other diseases, rather than block or cause distress in your > body. > >
"Deb" news:Nl_Id.896$ky2.231@bignews4.bellsouth.net... >A diabetic can't eat or drink high carbohydrate foods without having higher > blood glucose readings but if you were not a diabetic it wouldn't have > mattered how much fruit juice you drank, your body would have been able to > compensate for it. In other words your sugar was high because you - a > DIABETIC was drinking juice NOT just because you were a person drinking a > lot of juice. Now that your sugar has remained normal without medicine it > is true you may not need the medicine -AT THIS TIME- but you will always > be > prone to blood glucose spikes. Watch what you eat - everything you eat > with > carbohydrates not just fruit juice can effect you. Also at any time you > may > find you have to return to the medicines - it seems as if most if not all > diabetics lose more beta cell function as time goes on. So keep testing > even > if you are off your meds. > > Its true most pills list side effects. Its also true that herbs and > supplements have side effects too they just don't usually list them on the > bottle. A supplement that you put in your body can be as risky as a pill, > sometimes more so. Just because something is 'natural' doesn't mean it is > better safer. Its said that between 1/4 and 1/2 of our medicines come > from > nature yet we all consider them a medicine if the doctor gives them to us > and a supplement or herb if we get them some other place. Either way we > are > putting something in our bodies. Digitalis and arsenic are natural but we > sure wouldn't want to self dose with them. If you don't trust your doctor > get a second opinion but don't try to self medicate with herbs unless you > are an expert. I experiment. The fruit juices I had drank obviously had concentrated sugar, or processed sugar. Our foods nowadys lack the proper nutrition probably for the purpose to create medical problems so to make people take medication which can be harmful. Hate to say this but the last few days I've been noticing my sugar levels reading in the 70s and 80s. It has lowered since taking the Roex PC-95 (Grape Seed Extract) and Ester-C. But that is too early to tell. But if these nutritional products are doing the trick, then what good is Glucophage (Metformin) since it didn't really do anything? -John L.
"John" news:RqzKd.135599$NO5.82374@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com... > Hate to say this but the last few days I've been noticing my sugar levels > reading in the 70s and 80s. It has lowered since taking the Roex PC-95 > (Grape Seed Extract) and Ester-C. But that is too early to tell. But if > these nutritional products are doing the trick, then what good is Glucophage > (Metformin) since it didn't really do anything? Metformin may not have a lot of direct effect on your BG but it has other effects you may not be aware of, here is a copy of a post from Old Al: 1. Metformin has an extremely powerful effect on Type 2 Diabetics, mostly good. The clinically effective dose is thought to be about 1500 mg/day, but you have to walk up the dose because it can cause strange Gastrointestinal effects. (A 500 mg Avandamet contains 500 mg of metformin and, I think, 1 mg of Avandia) Some effects of metformin: a. Metformin reduces blood sugars http://www.diabetesnet.com/diabetes_treatments/metformin.php b. Metformin improves cholesterol and triglycerides http://tinyurl.com/5errv c. Metformin cuts heart attack risk in T2 http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/issue132/item2.shtml (BTW, so do Actos and Avandia) d. Actually, Metformin reduces overall mortality rates among T2 diabetics http://tinyurl.com/69yjd e. Metformin probably protects dying beta cells which are the proximate cause of T2 (A reasonable interpretation of the metformin results in the DPT-2 http://www.niddk.nih.gov/welcome/releases/8_8_01.htm f. Metformin protects against the formation of Advanced Glycosylation End Products (A.G.E.) (A very good thing for a diabetic) http://tinyurl.com/5tonv g. Finally, Metformin helps folks lose weight (though usually only in the first year) http://www.smart-drugs.net/ias-metformin-weightloss.htm h. However, metformin favors vitamin B12 deficiency and a related high homocysteine levels. http://www.aafp.org/afp/20040115/letters.html ". . . .The clinical significance of metformin-induced low levels of serum vitamin B12 associated with an increase in serum homocysteine levels as a risk factor for vascular disease is still controversial. Calcium supplementation appears to be an effective treatment5 as well as intramuscular or oral crystalline cyanocobalamin (B12). . ." High homocysteine is scary. Extra B6, B12 and Folic acid are the standard high-homocysteine remedies, which, IMO, all diabetics (even T1 like me, for instance,) ought to use, independently of metformin. http://tinyurl.com/4nytv 2. Stroke is a symptom of Type 2 Diabetes. So is heart attack. You need that exercise more than you think. It's nice that you are using exercise to control blood sugar (bG) but bG control is one of the lesser worries of a Type 2 diabetic. IMO, that exercise is more important as a means of protecting your arteries than as a means of controlling bG (though it also controls bG). As a Type 2 Diabetic, you want to: a. Protect yourself from premature stroke/heart attack: Reduce your Insulin Resistance i. Lose fat ii. Gain muscle iii. Exercise daily iv. Take metformin and (Avandia or Actos) . Reduce your levels of circulating insulin (Insulinemia) i. Reduce your Insulin Resistance ii. Ration your carb intake iii. Eat slowly-digesting carb, spread over several small meals Take anti-Diabetic Heart Attack meds i. ACE and/or ARB blood pressure med, ii. anti-Cholesterol meds b. Rest your weakened beta cells i. Reduce your Insulin Resistance ii. Reduce your levels of self-generated insulin iii. Inject Insulin, ie Lantus et. al. and finally, c. You want to control your bG to avoid gruesome complications i. Reduce your Insulin Resistance ii. Reduce your need for self-generated insulin iii. Inject insulin, i.e. Lantus, et. al. Note that bG control is an important goal but the elements of bG control are also contained in the "Protect your Arteries" and "Protect your Beta Cell" goals.
Some people are not diabetic simply because they have high blood sugar. There are medications that cause blood sugar levels to be elevated and others that while harmless to some individuals, will cause what is called "Induced Hyperglycemia". One example is Lipitor. I have always had low blood sugar. Low blood sugar runs in my family and there are not now or have there ever been any diabetic in my family. During a physical, the doctor decided my cholesterol was too high (runs in the family, but longevity does also. High cholesterol and deaths in the 95 + years of age, a great aunt just passed away at age 104 and cholesterol levels her entire life of 290. Also, because tests done here in the States say one thing, not everyone is the same. Ethnic background has a lot to do with ones makeup. Where one's ancestors came from also has a lot to do with it. So, unless these studies include everyone worldwide, the studies are never going to be correct. Otherwise, every study done would have the same results. And one can see from reading the paper that what one study says, another study in another part of the world contradicts it.) So, he decided to put me on Lipitor 10mg a day. The cholesterol did not budge. But my blood sugar started going up. Neither he or the nurse kept track of the previous blood sugar readings. They just looked to see that the results were between the normal limits of 70-120. Well my Blood sugar has always been in the 75 to 85 range. And the control test done at his office was 82 and a Glycohemoglobin of 5.4 -NOTHING DIABETIC ABOUT THAT. After 2 months of taking lipitor and not seeing the cholesterol go down, he raised it to 20mg daily. Every two months, liver function tests since Lipitor Has Serious Side Effects. Well 4 months later I had severe muscle pains, burning rash all around my neck, black and blue marks (bruising, blood under the skin) from muscle tears and an uncontrollable thirst, constant urination, vision changes and weight loss. I went back and of course his diagnosis was "YOU'RE A DIABETIC, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME" Fasting blood sugar 398, Glycohemoglobin 17.6. When I told him he best have an answer and he went through my chart, he almost passed out when he saw the control readings. He turned pale white and told me that because of the HIGH level, that I had to take Insulin and oral medications. He put me on 25 units of insulin each night and Avandamet 1000/400 twice a day. Pretty high for someone who was never Diabetic. Well to make the story short, his NEGLIGENCE almost killed me. Why, the idiot after all this still said my cholesterol was high since it had not dropped one bit and prescribed Lipitor 40mg. As if he had not learned. Well I did not take the Lipitor 40mg. (This was a year ago this past November. I took the Avandamet and the Insulin shots for 2 weeks and my sugar was going up and down like a roller coaster.) So I went back to his office, asked for all my records and called another doctor friend of mine who over the phone said "STOP TAKING EVERYTHING", "What you have is Lipitor Induced Hyperglycemia which is a serious side effect and all the other problems you have are also caused by the Lipitor" Well, I stopped everything and went to his office. He did a blood test control and said to come back in a month. A month later my fasting blood sugar was down to 110 and the Glyco had dropped to 11 (Glycohemoglobin measurements are done every 3 months, or the lifetime of a red blood cell, the glyco is the sugar coating on the red blood cell) I still check my sugar level with my Freestyle meter and it now is always between 78 and 92. The last test done at the doctors office had a fasting sugar level of 82 and a Glycohemoglobin of 5.6 Also, found in my records from the other doctor were the fasting blood sugar levels he never kept track off. Control 82, after starting Lipitor 10mg at 2 months later, 92. Two months after that 97. Then Lipitor 20mg and two months later 115. The next test 398. Anyone can see what I saw and this other doctor saw. Yet, he did not check the previous levels as he is supposed to. Neither did the nurse. So after going through HELL, I am now back to NOT completely normal. My sugar still increases slightly at night during "Cholesterol Synthesis" to anywhere from 95-105 the result of "Lipitor Damage to my Liver". Then after waking and doing the normal routine, eating breakfast, going to work, it drops never goes over 95 . Fasting Levels are like I said between 78 and 92. I take no medication and eat everything like before with no restrictions whatsoever. So, just because millions of people use a medication does not mean it is safe. The first cholesterol lowering drug was taken off the market because people were dying from it. Now we have the Viox problem. Two other Cholesterol lowering medications are also on the problem list. And this doctor that put me through hell also has a problem. A lawsuit. Also, it was in the International News. An Attorney from the midwest Filed a Class Action Lawsuit against the makers of Lipitor and Crestor. So that is my story. Just wanted others to know that medications can cause a very High Increase in your fasting blood sugar.
"Spram" news:irDRd.9953$hU7.9946@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com... > > So that is my story. Just wanted others to know that medications can > cause > a very High Increase in your fasting blood sugar. > Very well put 1 2 Next » Related Discussion: Might be relevant for some www.colondrano.com (11 posts) talo-navicular bone fusion (2 posts) Water: How much should you drink every day? (1 posts) A vitamin for diabetics (2 posts) Top Discussions From Our Archives Itch/Scratch Syndrome - Anal Itch Re: Questions RE: Type II Diabetes HELP Other Discussion Categories Diabetes Symptoms Health Care Policy Health Care Providers HMO Arthritis Symptoms
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