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Need questions answered-kinda' worried.


Need questions answered-kinda' worried. -- Posted by Larry Christian on 02-10-05 20:56


Hi everyone, glad I found this NG on diabetes. I have a cpl. of
questions I was hoping could be answered here. I'll try and be short and
concise. Went to Dr. a cpl. of wks. ago. They took blood samples, I've had
high cholesterol and triglycerides for several yrs.so it was time to check
for those levels. The tests came back, and cholesterol and triglycerides
were in fact very high. The blood was taken after a 12 hr. fast, the glucose
# was 148. The nurse called and gave all the particulars to me.
The nurse scheduled me back in 1 wk. for another fasting blood test, results
were exactly the same, glucose 148. She then told me the Dr. had called in
Norvasc to "protect" my kidneys ? I do have HBP but, my current BP meds.
(lisinopril) has seemingly kept my BP in check. The nurse seemed kinda'
concerned w/ the glucose numbers but, stopped short of contradicting the Dr.
orders to see me again in 6 mos. The nurse said his only orders were to
excersise and lose some weight. I have diabetes that has run rampent through
both sides of my family, my Dad, my Brother, my Grandmother, several Uncles
and Cousins have Diabetes.

Question is. Do you folks "in the know" think I should be alarmed with those
kind of fasting numbers?
I would appreciate any and all responses.


Larry



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Re: Need questions answered-kinda' worried. -- Posted by None Given on 02-11-05 13:20


"Larry Christian" wrote in message
news:420c3b78$1_2@127.0.0.1...
>
> Question is. Do you folks "in the know" think I should be alarmed with

those
> kind of fasting numbers?
> I would appreciate any and all responses.


Welcome to the club nobody wants to join.
Be alarmed enough to do something about it, now, before you have much damage
caused by your high BG (blood glucose.) Buy a glucose meter and read this
page about how to change your diet to reduce your numbers and how far.
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm
You may be startled by the numbers you see when you start testing yourself
after meals.
Did the nurse tell you what your A1c % was? If this test wasn't run you
should consider finding a new dr. If your dr won't prescribe a meter and
strips so your insurance will pay, you can get Relion brand at Wal-Mart, in
the mean time, while you are looking for a new dr. Relion is just as
accurate as the major brands and the strips (the biggest cost of testing)
are the most affordable. Your insurance company may have a preferred brand
but they will require a prescription before they will pay for it. My DH's
fasting BG numbers were lower than yours when he got his diagnosis, and his
dr prescribed what he needed, but he has a pretty good dr who has recently
taken seminars with an endocrinologist, from another town, on the latest in
care of diabetes. Also, consider the drug Metformin, it helps with weight
loss, insulin resistance in the liver, lowering triglycerides, and heart
attack risk, but it needs to be started at small doses and slowly increased
to avoid gastric disturbance. I assume you are already on a statin for your
cholesterol. You should also see an ophthalmologist to see if there is any
damage to your eyes, yet.
Also this ng doesn't get much traffic, here is another:
news:alt.support.diabetes
Use your killfile liberally there are plenty of gems but you'll have to sort
through quite a bit of crap to find them.
It won't take long for you to figure out who you should listen to and who
you should kf and what subjects you should put in your filters.
also check out:
news:misc.heath.diabetes
news:alt.food.diabetic


--
No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes



Re: Need questions answered-kinda' worried. -- Posted by Shawn Hearn on 02-19-05 10:49


In article <420c3b78$1_2@127.0.0.1>,
"Larry Christian" wrote:

> Hi everyone, glad I found this NG on diabetes. I have a cpl. of
> questions I was hoping could be answered here. I'll try and be short and
> concise. Went to Dr. a cpl. of wks. ago. They took blood samples, I've had
> high cholesterol and triglycerides for several yrs.so it was time to check
> for those levels. The tests came back, and cholesterol and triglycerides
> were in fact very high. The blood was taken after a 12 hr. fast, the glucose
> # was 148. The nurse called and gave all the particulars to me.
> The nurse scheduled me back in 1 wk. for another fasting blood test, results
> were exactly the same, glucose 148. She then told me the Dr. had called in
> Norvasc to "protect" my kidneys ? I do have HBP but, my current BP meds.
> (lisinopril) has seemingly kept my BP in check. The nurse seemed kinda'
> concerned w/ the glucose numbers but, stopped short of contradicting the Dr.
> orders to see me again in 6 mos. The nurse said his only orders were to
> excersise and lose some weight. I have diabetes that has run rampent through
> both sides of my family, my Dad, my Brother, my Grandmother, several Uncles
> and Cousins have Diabetes.
>
> Question is. Do you folks "in the know" think I should be alarmed with those
> kind of fasting numbers?
> I would appreciate any and all responses.

Being "alarmed" serves no purpose. The best thing you can do for
yourself is to follow your doctor's recommedation to lose weight and get
regular exercise. Cut down on your carb intake. If you do those things,
your BG numbers will likely drop to a safe level. At 148, its not too
high, but those numbers do suggest that you're on the path to diabetes
if you do not implement a healthy lifestyle. Do not underestimate the
value of a healthy diet and exercise in staving off diabetes.


Re: Need questions answered-kinda' worried. -- Posted by Ma¢k  on 03-15-05 06:58


On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 13:49:14 -0500, Shawn Hearn
Huffed and Puffed the following into the madness of usenet:

>In article <420c3b78$1_2@127.0.0.1>,
> "Larry Christian" wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone, glad I found this NG on diabetes. I have a cpl. of

>> questions I was hoping could be answered here. I'll try and be short and
>> concise. Went to Dr. a cpl. of wks. ago. They took blood samples, I've had
>> high cholesterol and triglycerides for several yrs.so it was time to check
>> for those levels. The tests came back, and cholesterol and triglycerides
>> were in fact very high. The blood was taken after a 12 hr. fast, the glucose
>> # was 148. The nurse called and gave all the particulars to me.
>> The nurse scheduled me back in 1 wk. for another fasting blood test, results
>> were exactly the same, glucose 148. She then told me the Dr. had called in
>> Norvasc to "protect" my kidneys ? I do have HBP but, my current BP meds.
>> (lisinopril) has seemingly kept my BP in check. The nurse seemed kinda'
>> concerned w/ the glucose numbers but, stopped short of contradicting the Dr.
>> orders to see me again in 6 mos. The nurse said his only orders were to
>> excersise and lose some weight. I have diabetes that has run rampent through
>> both sides of my family, my Dad, my Brother, my Grandmother, several Uncles
>> and Cousins have Diabetes.
>>
>> Question is. Do you folks "in the know" think I should be alarmed with those
>> kind of fasting numbers?
>> I would appreciate any and all responses.
>
>Being "alarmed" serves no purpose. The best thing you can do for

>yourself is to follow your doctor's recommedation to lose weight and get
>regular exercise. Cut down on your carb intake. If you do those things,
>your BG numbers will likely drop to a safe level. At 148, its not too
>high, but those numbers do suggest that you're on the path to diabetes
>if you do not implement a healthy lifestyle. Do not underestimate the
>value of a healthy diet and exercise in staving off diabetes.


actually the best thing for him is to get a qualified doctor who will
actually help him treat his diabetes.

Māck©®
Type 1 since 1975
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
http://www.diabetic-talk.org
http://www.insulin-pumpers.org



"To announce that there must be no criticism of the
President, or that we are to stand by the President
right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."
...Theodore Roosevelt

(o o)
--ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------

"I don't know half of you
half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."


Re: Need questions answered-kinda' worried. -- Posted by Ma¢k  on 03-15-05 06:57


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:56:01 -0500, "Larry Christian"
Huffed and Puffed the following into the madness
of usenet:

> Hi everyone, glad I found this NG on diabetes. I have a cpl. of
>questions I was hoping could be answered here. I'll try and be short and
>concise. Went to Dr. a cpl. of wks. ago. They took blood samples, I've had
>high cholesterol and triglycerides for several yrs.so it was time to check
>for those levels. The tests came back, and cholesterol and triglycerides
>were in fact very high. The blood was taken after a 12 hr. fast, the glucose
># was 148. The nurse called and gave all the particulars to me.
>The nurse scheduled me back in 1 wk. for another fasting blood test, results
>were exactly the same, glucose 148. She then told me the Dr. had called in
>Norvasc to "protect" my kidneys ? I do have HBP but, my current BP meds.
>(lisinopril) has seemingly kept my BP in check. The nurse seemed kinda'
>concerned w/ the glucose numbers but, stopped short of contradicting the Dr.
>orders to see me again in 6 mos. The nurse said his only orders were to
>excersise and lose some weight. I have diabetes that has run rampent through
>both sides of my family, my Dad, my Brother, my Grandmother, several Uncles
>and Cousins have Diabetes.
>
>Question is. Do you folks "in the know" think I should be alarmed with those

>kind of fasting numbers?
>I would appreciate any and all responses.
>
>

>Larry


You should insist, not ask, for a referral to an endocrinologist.
Your doctor's advice is far from adequate, which unfortunately is
typical. If you get any argument about this, get a new doctor as
quickly as possible, I'd do it anyway because if he gave you such poor
care on this issue what else has this doc been neglecting to inform
you about?

From the ADA website

"In order to determine whether or not a patient has pre-diabetes or
diabetes, health care providers conduct a Fasting Plasma Glucose Test
(FPG) or an Oral Glucose Tolerance Test (OGTT). Either test can be
used to diagnose pre-diabetes or diabetes. The American Diabetes
Association recommends the FPG because it is easier, faster, and less
expensive to perform.

With the FPG test, a fasting blood glucose level between 100 and 125
mg/dl signals pre-diabetes. A person with a fasting blood glucose
level of 126 mg/dl or higher has diabetes."

Officially you have diabetes.

You should get yourself a meter and start testing your BG. If you do
not have insurance the cheapest meter and test strips are the relion
brand from walmart. You should read Jennifer's advice to newly
diagnosed at http://www.alt-supoort-diabetes.org also if you like
chatting online via IRC goto http://www.diabetic-talk.org which also
hosts Jennifer's advice but will instruct you how to get into a
diabetic chat room set up by diabetics who post here and in other
diabetic newsgroups.

Be very wary of those who claim to be doctors here. Doctor Biggs is a
real doctor and can be trusted. Chung, Jai and betty markle are all
literally nut cases.

Māck©®
Type 1 since 1975
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
http://www.diabetic-talk.org
http://www.insulin-pumpers.org



"To announce that there must be no criticism of the
President, or that we are to stand by the President
right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."
...Theodore Roosevelt

(o o)
--ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------

"I don't know half of you
half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."



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