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--- Avoid Milk = Avoid Insulin Resistance
George Lagergren wrote: > "Szaki" >> Go to the store and look it the containers label, smarty! >> Milk has to "TASTE GOOD" for kids, so the more fat they take out, >> other stuff has to go in, otherwise taste like water. > > So what other stuff is put in low-fat cow's milk? It is bulked out with lactose so it doesn't seem so watery and insipid. That's why skimmed milk has more carbs than full fat milk.
"Ozgirl" @authen.white.readfreenews.net: > George Lagergren wrote: >> "Szaki" >>> Go to the store and look it the containers label, smarty! >>> Milk has to "TASTE GOOD" for kids, so the more fat they > take out, >>> other stuff has to go in, otherwise taste like water. >> >> So what other stuff is put in low-fat cow's milk? > > It is bulked out with lactose so it doesn't seem so watery > and insipid. That's why skimmed milk has more carbs than > full fat milk. I'm afraid you're vectoring an urban legend, at least if different forms of milk are treated the same way in Australia as in the US. According to the USDA nutrient database, whole milk has 4.52 grams of carbohydrate per 100 grams of milk, whereas skim milk has 4.92 grams of carbohydrate per 100 grams. That's a 9% difference, which sounds like it could be significant, but given the limited amount of milk most people consume per day, it isn't; it's only a few grams of carbohydrate, not likely to make any difference except for people who are trying to deliberately induce ketosis in order to lose a few scale pounds worth of liver glycogen. Even in the most brittle diabetic, the difference of effects on blood sugar would be so tiny that it couldn't be reliably detected, even with a Yellow Spring analyzer using venous blood samples.
Eric Bohlman wrote: > "Ozgirl" news:429a86b3$0$37514$892e7fe2 > @authen.white.readfreenews.net: > >> George Lagergren wrote: >>> "Szaki" >>>> Go to the store and look it the containers label, smarty! >>>> Milk has to "TASTE GOOD" for kids, so the more fat they >> take out, >>>> other stuff has to go in, otherwise taste like water. >>> >>> So what other stuff is put in low-fat cow's milk? >> >> It is bulked out with lactose so it doesn't seem so watery >> and insipid. That's why skimmed milk has more carbs than >> full fat milk. > > I'm afraid you're vectoring an urban legend, at least if different > forms of milk are treated the same way in Australia as in the US. > According to the USDA nutrient database, whole milk has 4.52 grams of > carbohydrate per 100 grams of milk, whereas skim milk has 4.92 grams > of carbohydrate per 100 grams. That's a 9% difference, which sounds > like it could be significant, but given the limited amount of milk > most people consume per day, it isn't; it's only a few grams of > carbohydrate, not likely to make any difference except for people who > are trying to deliberately induce ketosis in order to lose a few > scale pounds worth of liver glycogen. Even in the most brittle > diabetic, the difference of effects on blood sugar would be so tiny > that it couldn't be reliably detected, even with a Yellow Spring > analyzer using venous blood samples. I'm afraid I was only answering the poster's question about what is added to skimmed milk to make the carb count higher. But while we are on the subject I doubt that all non fat liquid milk across the US has the same carb count. Even within one brand here there are a number of different non fat milks, some with higher protein, lactose free etc, some have more calories and between brands and even within brands the carb count differences can be significant. I have seen between 12 gr and 18 gr carb per 250 ml cup. 6 gr can be a considerable amount of carbs for those needing to keep carbs low for control (irrespective of whether ones wants to be in ketosis or not). 100 mls of milk isn't much by the way, hardly worth opening the carton for in my opinion. I would imagine those who do drink milk would have at least a cup, but I am only guessing here. But all this is not what I was answering in the two posts anyway, I was just stating facts - 1. that carb counts differ from brand to brand (as szaki pointed out by checking his individual label as opposed to using a standard database) and 2. explaining what milk additives can be that add carbs. Usual additives to low or no fat milks are Vit A & D and non fat milk solids. Different percentages of the milk solids would give you the range between watery, thin skimmed milk and a more appealing (to some) "creamier" style (and more lactose obviously). I prefer the watery one myself but others would like a milk with more substance while still keeping sat fat levels down.
"Eric Bohlman" news:Xns966611786B70Bebohlmanomsdevcom@130.133.1.4... > "Ozgirl" > @authen.white.readfreenews.net: > >> George Lagergren wrote: >>> "Szaki" >>>> Go to the store and look it the containers label, smarty! >>>> Milk has to "TASTE GOOD" for kids, so the more fat they >> take out, >>>> other stuff has to go in, otherwise taste like water. >>> >>> So what other stuff is put in low-fat cow's milk? >> >> It is bulked out with lactose so it doesn't seem so watery >> and insipid. That's why skimmed milk has more carbs than >> full fat milk. > > I'm afraid you're vectoring an urban legend, at least if different forms > of milk are treated the same way in Australia as in the US. According to > the USDA nutrient database, whole milk has 4.52 grams of carbohydrate per > 100 grams of milk, whereas skim milk has 4.92 grams of carbohydrate per > 100 grams. That's a 9% difference, which sounds like it could be > significant, but given the limited amount of milk most people consume per > day, it isn't; it's only a few grams of carbohydrate, not likely to make > any difference except for people who are trying to deliberately induce > ketosis in order to lose a few scale pounds worth of liver glycogen. > Even in the most brittle diabetic, the difference of effects on blood > sugar would be so tiny that it couldn't be reliably detected, even with a > Yellow Spring analyzer using venous blood samples. *Here we go, just pulled out a gallon of 2% milk from the fridge and I'm looking at the label! -Serv. size 1 cup (240ml) = Total carb 15gr.- Sugars 14 gr. The non-fat milk has even higher carb. Now, that's too much for a diabetic. Way before I was diagnosed T2, I can drink 2 cups of milk easy for breakfast, plus few slices of bread. My wife drinks hot chocolate, ( about 1 cup/16oz. of milk in the mug) every day, some times twice a day. She loves it. JS
In article <429a86b3$0$37514$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net>, Ozgirl >George Lagergren wrote: >> "Szaki" >>> Go to the store and look it the containers label, smarty! >>> Milk has to "TASTE GOOD" for kids, so the more fat they >take out, >>> other stuff has to go in, otherwise taste like water. >> >> So what other stuff is put in low-fat cow's milk? > >It is bulked out with lactose so it doesn't seem so watery >and insipid. That's why skimmed milk has more carbs than >full fat milk. Are you sure about the lactose? The source I found said "milk solids", which didn't seem like quite the same thing. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "I don't need someone to tell me that George W. Bush is a deceitful, corrupt, clever and destructive man--that's pretty clear on the face of it." -- Garrison Keillor Start « Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next » Related Discussion: Gout Diagnosis and Immediate Relief (12 posts) Re: New to Diabetes--please help (2 posts) Doctor are good doctors? (1 posts) More Mediterranean and Asian recipes to share (1 posts) Top Discussions From Our Archives Other Discussion Categories Diabetes Symptoms Health Care Policy Health Care Providers HMO Arthritis Symptoms Oops!!! Unexpected Error While Reading the Feed
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