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--- Avoid Milk = Avoid Insulin Resistance
On Mon, 30 May 2005 22:20:49 +1000, Ozgirl wrote in alt.health.diabetes,misc.health.diabetes,sci.med.nutrition : > Enrico C wrote: > >> Ozgirl said she has seen >> "between 12 gr and 18 gr carb per 250 ml cup. 6 " >> >> And if you don't really need "non fat", why not use "low > fat" instead? > > Low fat or non fat both have added non fat milk solids > added. Which means more lactose and depending on the > resulting milk required it can be significant - i.e. the > difference between getting a 12 gr per cup milk and an 18 gr > cup. For the amount of milk I drink I wouldn't be bothered > about the amount of cholesterol per cup in full fat but I > hate the taste of full fat, to me it is like drinking cream. > The advantage of full fat, if you don't mind the creaminess, > is that fat can help to flatten any spike you might get plus > you probably wouldn't need to check the labels between > brands as I have found full fat milk to have pretty much the > same carb count per cup whatever the brand. Besides, "full fat" should be a best source for vitamins and minerals... I personally think "reduced fat" (1,5-2% fat...) is the best compromise between taste and nutrients and fat. X'Posted to: alt.health.diabetes,misc.health.diabetes,sci.med.nutrition -- Enrico C
On Mon, 30 May 2005 22:20:49 +1000, Ozgirl wrote in alt.health.diabetes,misc.health.diabetes,sci.med.nutrition : > Enrico C wrote: > >> Ozgirl said she has seen >> "between 12 gr and 18 gr carb per 250 ml cup. 6 " >> >> And if you don't really need "non fat", why not use "low > fat" instead? > > Low fat or non fat both have added non fat milk solids > added. Which means more lactose and depending on the > resulting milk required it can be significant - i.e. the > difference between getting a 12 gr per cup milk and an 18 gr > cup. For the amount of milk I drink I wouldn't be bothered > about the amount of cholesterol per cup in full fat but I > hate the taste of full fat, to me it is like drinking cream. > The advantage of full fat, if you don't mind the creaminess, > is that fat can help to flatten any spike you might get plus > you probably wouldn't need to check the labels between > brands as I have found full fat milk to have pretty much the > same carb count per cup whatever the brand. Besides, "full fat" should be a better source for vitamins and minerals... I personally think "reduced fat" (1,5-2% fat...) is the best compromise between taste and nutrients, and fat. X'Posted to: alt.health.diabetes,misc.health.diabetes,sci.med.nutrition X'Posted to: alt.health.diabetes,misc.health.diabetes,sci.med.nutrition -- Enrico C
Enrico C wrote: > On Mon, 30 May 2005 22:20:49 +1000, Ozgirl wrote in > t> on > alt.health.diabetes,misc.health.diabetes,sci.med.nutrition : > >> Enrico C wrote: >> >>> Ozgirl said she has seen >>> "between 12 gr and 18 gr carb per 250 ml cup. 6 " >>> >>> And if you don't really need "non fat", why not use "low >> fat" instead? >> >> Low fat or non fat both have added non fat milk solids >> added. Which means more lactose and depending on the >> resulting milk required it can be significant - i.e. the >> difference between getting a 12 gr per cup milk and an 18 gr >> cup. For the amount of milk I drink I wouldn't be bothered >> about the amount of cholesterol per cup in full fat but I >> hate the taste of full fat, to me it is like drinking cream. >> The advantage of full fat, if you don't mind the creaminess, >> is that fat can help to flatten any spike you might get plus >> you probably wouldn't need to check the labels between >> brands as I have found full fat milk to have pretty much the >> same carb count per cup whatever the brand. > > Besides, "full fat" should be a better source for vitamins and > minerals... > > I personally think "reduced fat" (1,5-2% fat...) is the best > compromise between taste and nutrients, and fat. Well they add vitamin D to full fat milk as well but low fat milks have to have added vitamin A as well and of course the milk solids but I doubt there's any problem with that, makes the price of low fat milk more though. When my 15 yr old was born he vomited up breast milk so we tried cows milk formula, he did the same, we tried straight milk with water and lactose and same, ditto soy milk formula. He was very underweight and allergy tested. Strangely he had no problem with the raw milk test, only the pastuerised milk. No one could tell me why. He ended up on an artificial formula of all sorts of oils and sugars for 1 year, so expensive I had to get Govt permission to buy it subsidised. he grew out of his food intolerances by age 2, luckily. Wheat was another, as in wheat type breakfast cereals but not white bread. Walking through perfume sections of dept stores caused his eyes to puff and water.
"Kev" > Diabet Med. 2005 Jun;22(6):808-11. > > Avoiding milk is associated with a reduced risk of insulin resistance and > the metabolic syndrome: findings from the British Women's Heart and Health > Study. > > Lawlor DA, Ebrahim S, Timpson N, Davey Smith G. > > Department of Social Medicine, University of Bristol, Canynge Hall, Bristol, > UK. > > Objective To examine the association of milk consumption with insulin > resistance and the metabolic syndrome. Methods The association was examined > in 4024 British women aged 60-79 who were randomly selected from primary > care centres in 23 towns. Results Women who never drank milk had lower > homeostasis model assessment insulin resistance (HOMA) scores, triglyceride > concentrations and body mass indices, and higher high-density lipoprotein > (HDL)-cholesterol concentrations, than those who drank milk. The > age-adjusted odds ratio for the metabolic syndrome comparing non-milk > drinkers with drinkers was 0.55 (0.33, 0.94), which did not attenuate with > adjustment for potential confounders. Diabetes was less common in non-milk > drinkers. Conclusion Individuals who do not drink milk may be protected > against insulin resistance and the metabolic syndrome. However, randomized > controlled trials are required to establish whether milk avoidance is > causally associated with these outcomes. Diabet. Med. 22, 808-811 (2005). > > PMID: 1591063 Thanks for the info. Start « Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 Related Discussion: Gout Diagnosis and Immediate Relief (12 posts) Re: New to Diabetes--please help (2 posts) Doctor are good doctors? (1 posts) More Mediterranean and Asian recipes to share (1 posts) Top Discussions From Our Archives Other Discussion Categories Diabetes Symptoms Health Care Policy Health Care Providers HMO Arthritis Symptoms Oops!!! Unexpected Error While Reading the Feed
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