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FAQs/Q&A about Weight Discrimination: feedback requested

FAQs/Q&A about Weight Discrimination: feedback requested -- Posted by I Jah Rastafari on 06-10-05 11:22

FAQs/Q&A about Weight Discrimination

FAQ: What is weight discrimination?

Discrimination is defined as unfair difference in treatment made
between people because of specific characteristics. It is based on
prejudice, which is defined as preconceived opinion or judgment without
just grounds or before sufficient knowledge. In its extreme,
discrimination is called bigotry, which is defined as obstinate and
unreasoning attachment to one's own opinions, with intolerance to any
opposing views. When the specific characteristic is body size and
weight, that is weight discrimination, weight prejudice, or weight
bigotry.

Q&A: TRUE

FAQ: Prospective employers often refuse to hire large size people,
especially in jobs where employees do physical work, or jobs where
employees interact with the public.

Q&A: PHYSICAL WORK? WHO ARE WE KIDDING? LET'S BE HONEST HERE, IF YOU
DID PHYSICAL WORK YOU WOULDN'T BE FAT. SIMILARLY, IS AN OBESE PERSON
A SUITABLE SALES REP AT A SPORTS OR FITNESS STORE OR AN APPROPRIATE
RECEPTIONIST AT A GYM, DOCTORS OFFICE, FITNESS CENTER OR HEALTH FOOD
STORE

FAQ: Large people are subject to harassment about their weight by their
employers, are kept in jobs beneath their abilities, and are often
demoted or fired because of stated or unstated weight prejudice.

Q&A: BENEATH THEIR ABILITIES HUH? IF SOMEONE DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY
(OR WILLPOWER) TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES AND THEIR HEALTH DO THINK
THEY HAVE THE ABILITY (OR WILLPOWER) TO WORK WITH A COUPLE MILLION IN
COMPANY ASSETS?

FAQ: Physicians and other health care professionals often tell fat
patients to lose weight rather than treating them for their specific
medical condition.

Q&A: THIS IS BULLSHIT IN ITS HIGHEST FORM! THEIR 'SPECIFIC MEDICAL
CONDITION' IS IN ALL LIKELIHOOD BROUGHT ABOUT OR EXACERBATED BY
OBESITY! COMMON PEOPLE LET'S BE REASONABLE HERE!!

FAQ: Health care facilities and equipment (such as cat scans and MRIs)
are often inaccessible to large people.

Q&A: MAINLY BECAUSE THE AVERAGE AKA NORMAL PERSON DOES NOT WEIGH OVER
300LBS. SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT COSTS MONEY - A LOT OF MONEY - MONEY
MOST HOSPITALS DON'T HAVE. WHERE'S THE CASH GOING TO COME FROM? YOU
VOTED IN A PRESIDENT AND CONGRESS WHO VOWED TO CUT TAXES (READ: GRANTS
TO HOSPITALS AND COMMUNITY CENTERS) -DUMBASSES!

FAQ: Large people are systematically denied health insurance and life
insurance, or they are forced to pay higher premiums than those of
average weight.

Q&A: GOOD! WHY SHOULD A HEALTHY PERSON SUBSIDIZE AN OBESE ONE VIA
INSURANCE PREMIUMS? WHY PUNISH GOOD BEHAVIOUR AND REWARD BAD BEHAVIOUR?
YOU WANT LOWER PREMIUMS - LOSE WEIGHT! OBESE PEOPLE INCUR MORE HEALTH
COSTS AND SPEND MORE TIME IN HOSPITAL THEREFORE HIGHER INSURANCE
PREMIUMS! SIMPLE MATH!

FAQ: Applicants are often turned down by colleges, universities, and
other educational institutions because of their weight.

Q&A: MORE BULLSHIT! THE OBESE STUDENTS IN QUESTION FAILED ADMISSION TO
MILITARY COLLEGE BECAUSE THEY FAILED THE PHYSICAL DESPITE MEETING THE
ACEDEMIC REQUIRMENTS. YOU CAN'T FIGHT IF YOU CAN'T CARRY YOUR
EQUIPMENT!!

FAQ: Landlords, housing agencies, and real estate agents often deny
larger people apartments, or show them only inferior locations, to
prevent them from moving into the neighborhood.

Q&A: OH REALLY? AND THIS IS AFTER NAFFA POSTS CONTINUOUS DIATRIBES
ABOUT HOW UNFAIR IT IS TO FAT PEOPLE THAT OFFICES, FACILITIES ETC ARE
ON THE 2ND OR 3RD FLOOR OF THE BUILDING? CAN'T CLIMB 2 OR 3 FLIGHTS
OF STAIRS TO AN OFFICE BUT YOU'RE PERFECTLY WILLING TO CLIMB 5
FLIGHTS TO A 'BIG' APARTMENT. ALSO, WHY SHOULD A LANDLORD TAKE THE
RISK OF HAVING HIS APARTMENT, TOILET, BATHROOM, FLOOR, KITCHEN, ETC
TRASHED BY A MORBIDLY OBESE PERSON. HAVE WE FORGOTTEN ABOUT MRS
'THERE'S A COUCH GRAFTED TO MY ASS' AND HOW THEY HAD TO TEAR DOWN
THE WALL OF THE APARTMENT TO GET HER OUT?

FAQ: There are many other aspects of weight discrimination. The Council
has consulted with a person who was denied membership in a traveling
choir because of her weight, large-size couples who were turned down as
adoptive parents, and a man who was asked to accept a refund on his gym
membership because customers had complained that they didn't like to
look at his body.

Q&A: OK LETS BE HONEST ABOUT THIS.

THE TRAVELLING CHOIR LADY WAS TURNED DOWN BECAUSE SHE WOULD REQUIRE 2
AIRPLANE SEATS WHENEVER SHE FLEW I.E. THEY WOULD HAVE TO LET SOMEONE GO
JUST TO TAKE HER ON.

THE FAT COUPLE WERE DENIED ADOPTION RIGHTS BECAUSE THE JUDGE RULED THAT
THEY WERE SETTING AN UNHEALTHY EXAMPLE AND THAT THEY DID NOT PROVIDE A
SAFE AND HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT - BLOODY GOOD FOR HIM

THE GUY WHO WAS ASKED TO ACCEPT A REFUND ON HIS GYM MEMBERSHIP -
CLEAR-CUT DISCRIMINATION. HIRE A LAWYER BUDDY AND SUE THE CRAP OUT OF
THEM!!

FAQ: Public facilities are inaccessible to many large people because of
turnstiles, narrow armchairs, narrow doors, hallways, stairs, and small
bathrooms.

Q&A: I SAID IT BEFORE AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN: THE AVERAGE HUMAN BEING
DOES NOT AND SHOULD NOT WEIGH 300+ POUNDS! BABY ELEPHANTS AND BABY
HIPPOPOTAMUSES DON'T WEIGH 300 POUNDS! IF YOU WEIGHT THIS MUCH -
THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU AND CHANCES ARE IT AIN'T GENETIC!

FAQ: Airplanes, trains, and buses often have seating that is
uncomfortably small or tight for larger-than-average people.

Q&A: WHAT'S YOUR POINT? SEE ABOVE.

FAQ: Isn't it true that fat people are lazy, stupid, weak-willed,
lacking in ambition, selfish, greedy, gluttonous, sedentary, and ugly?
None of these characterizations have any basis in fact. These are false
stereotypes that are used to justify the prejudice and discrimination
that fat people suffer..

Q&A: WRONG, WRONG, WRONG ON SO MANY LEVELS WRONG! UNLESS OBESITY IS THE
NEW QUANTUM PHYSICS IF YOU EAT MORE THAN YOU BURN YOU WILL GAIN WEIGHT.
IF YOU BURN MORE THAN YOU EAT YOU WILL LOSE WEIGHT. WHY AREN'T YOU
LOSING WEIGHT YOU ASK? BECAUSE YOU EAT MORE THAN YOU BURN. WHY IS THIS?
BECAUSE YOU ARE LAZY, STUPID, WEAK-WILLED, LACKING IN AMBITION,
SELFISH, GREEDY, GLUTTONOUS & SEDENTARY. * UNLESS YOU'RE ACTUALLY
ILL. HOW MANY OBESE ETHIOPIANS DO YOU SEE? YOU WOULD THINK THAT AT
LEAST A COUPLE OF THEM WOULD HAVE THIS MYSTERIOUS "OBESITY GENE".

FAQ: Doesn't an employer have the right to refuse to hire fat people?
An employer can insist that a job applicant be qualified to do the job,
likeable, and personable, but any criterion which excludes an entire
group of people is unacceptable.

Q&A: FAIR ENOUGH

FAQ: Doesn't an employer have the right to fire or demote employees if
they gain a lot of weight?

FAQ: The only valid criterion for job evaluation, raises, promotions,
disciplinary action, demotion, or firing is job performance. If an
employer thinks an employee's weight hinders their ability to do the
job, the employer should discuss this with the employee and make a
determination, not make a judgment about the person's ability based
solely on their weight.

Q&A: FAIR ENOUGH. UNLESS WEIGHT HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF THE CRITERIA FOR
THE JOB.

FAQ: What if the job is a fire fighter or some other position that
requires physical fitness?

FAQ: Employers have the right to require a test of physical fitness for
any job that requires strength, agility, or stamina. If the position
requires a person to be able to carry a hose up a ladder, then the job
interview can and should include a simulation of that situation. If the
applicant can perform the task to the employer's satisfaction, it
should not matter what that applicant weighs.

Q&A: ALSO FAIR ENOUGH. THIS PROBABLY ACCOUNTS FOR THE 'LARGE
NUMBER' OF OBESE FIREFIGHTERS.

FAQ: What if the job is a waitress or a receptionist or salesperson or
someone else who has to deal with the public all the time?

Employers can insist that their public representatives be well groomed,
appropriately dressed, and personable. It is wrong to assume that fat
people are not capable of serving the public well. Consider comedian
and talk show host Rosie O'Donnell. She is charming, engaging,
immensely popular, and makes all her guests feel welcome. She has
stated on network television that she weighs over 200 pounds. But she
would obviously be an excellent candidate for any position that
required interaction with clients or members of the public.

Q&A: I'M SORRY? DID YOU CALL ROSIE O'DONNELL CHARMING, ENGAGING, &
IMMENSELY POPULAR?

FAQ: Isn't it true that fat people take up too much space on buses,
trains, and airplanes?

Q&A: SHORT ANSWER - YES

FAQ: This question has made headlines because of the notoriously
cramped seating on airplanes, and a lawsuit in which a fat person sued
an airline for requiring her to buy two seats. But airlines and other
carriers do not state that they are selling a certain amount of space.
They advertise fares for passage for one adult from one point to
another. Truth in advertising requires that they provide that passage.

Q&A: SHORT ANSWER - TOUGH

FAQ: Aren't Americans getting fatter and fatter?

Yes, the statistics show that the average weight of people in this
country is going up.

Q&A: SHORT ANSWER - YES

FAQ: Isn't this because of people being gluttons and not doing any
exercise?

No. The reasons for our increasing average weight have much more to do
with changes in the economy. We were once an agrarian society, and most
people did physically demanding work all the time. When we became an
industrial society, work was still physically demanding. Today, most
people's work requires little or no physical activity. Cars and public
transportation are so available that walking and bicycling are no
longer common modes of transportation. In addition, our style of
preparing and eating food has changed completely. We used to prepare
food from scratch in the home, and eat most meals at home. Today, most
people eat a substantial portion of their food outside of the home.
Food is no longer scarce, and is in fact universally available and
widely advertised. Huge industries compete with each other to make
their food more enticing, more available, and cheaper than that of
their competitors. Advertisers are not under any pressure to sell
healthy food, so they advertise what will tempt people to eat as much
as possible.

Q&A: THE MORE WRONG THE BEHAVIOUR THE MORE THE WRONGDOERS NEED TO
JUSTIFY IT (SEE THE LONG ANSWER ABOVE). THE REAL REASON: ITS BECAUSE
OF PEOPLE BEING GLUTTONS AND NOT DOING ANY EXERCISE

FAQ: Isn't it unhealthy to be fat?

Sometimes. While some fat people are unhealthy, there are some people
who can be both fat and healthy. Fatness by itself is not a disease,
but rather a risk factor for certain chronic diseases, such as
diabetes. That means that in a group of fat people, you will find more
diabetics than in a group of thin people. There is a correlation
between fatness and diabetes. Scientist have not, however, proven that
fatness causes diabetes. Correlation is not the same as causation. Some
researchers have proposed that there is another unknown factor that
causes both the diabetes and the fatness.Poor nutrition and lack of
physical activity have, however, been proven to be unhealthy. This is
true no matter whether a person is thin or fat.Even if it were proven
that being fat was always unhealthy, the problem is that we do not have
a cure for fatness. (Also see the answer to the following
question.)Shouldn't we do something about the increasing weight of
Americans?Yes and no. Good public health policy demands that we address
the problems of poor nutrition and lack of physical activity.
Pre-schools, elementary schools, high schools, and colleges should be
providing nutrition education, healthy food choices, and opportunities
for physical activity for students. Businesses should provide similar
opportunities for their workers. Government programs should subsidize
such opportunities for poor people. And there should be public
advertising campaigns that teach people the benefits of eating
nutritious food and getting enough physical activity.However, it is
wrong-and counter-productive-to make such an educational campaign
into a weight-loss program. First of all, knowing a person's weight is
not the same as knowing whether they eat healthy food or whether they
get enough exercise. Thin people need this education just as much as
fat people. And secondly, all currently known weight-loss techniques
have been abysmal failures. More than 90% of dieters regain the weight
they lost. No other medical recommendation has such a high failure
rate. Until science has come up with a way for people to lose weight
and keep it off permanently, it is useless to recommend weight loss. It
may even be damaging to the public health, since there is some evidence
that repeated diets can lead to binge eating and choosing much less
healthy foods. Many dieters end up regaining more weight than they
lost. Some feel that the diet craze in the last few decades is at least
partly responsible for the increasing rate of obesity in America.

Q&A: AS ABOVE, THE MORE WRONG THE BEHAVIOUR THE MORE THE WRONGDOERS
NEED TO JUSTIFY IT (SEE THE LONG ANSWER ABOVE). THE REAL REASON: ITS
BECAUSE OF PEOPLE BEING GLUTTONS AND NOT DOING ANY EXERCISE

FAQ: Isn't it true that fat people use up more than their share of the
public health care dollar?

No. As a society, we have chosen to join together and share in the
funding of public health care. Many of us also pay for private health
care and/or health insurance. We do not get to pick who deserves what
portion of the resources available. Athletes use more health care
services because they are at higher risk for broken bones, injuries to
soft tissues, etc. Those who drive cars put themselves at greater risk
for traffic accidents. Older people use a majority of the public health
care collar. And to use a truly parallel example, poverty is a risk
factor for most major diseases. Poor people use more public money on
health care, and have worse outcomes. The difference is that our
society does not disapprove of athletes or car drivers, and we
recognize that it is unfair to blame poor people or old people for
their greater use of health care resources. But when it comes to
obesity, weight prejudice makes our society intolerant. We blame fat
people for their condition no matter what the real cause. We blame fat
people for not losing weight, no matter how difficult or impossible
that might be. We blame fat people for using more than "their share" of
health care resources. Our society does this because of prejudice,
bigotry, and intolerance against those who are heavier than average.
There are several theories for the origin of our culture's disapproval
of fatness. Since it seems to have started in the early part of the
twentieth century, some say it started with motion pictures, since they
say "the camera puts on 15 pounds". One theory says that the beginning
of ready-to-wear clothing changed everything. Until the early 1900s,
all clothing was custom-made, so a person's size was of no
significance. Once clothing was manufactured in a range of sizes,
anything outside that range started to be considered different, or not
"normal". Since weight discrimination affects women disproportionately,
some feel that the disapproval of larger body size has its roots in the
rise in women's power. After women won the right to vote and started
participating as full active members of society, many men felt
threatened by women's power and stature, and there was a backlash
against feminism. Even today, successful women are constrained by the
cultural pressure that forces them to spend enormous amounts of time
and money on their appearance. A large portion of that time and energy
is spent on the obsession with thinness and the fear of fatness.

Q&A: AS ABOVE, THE MORE WRONG THE BEHAVIOUR THE MORE THE WRONGDOERS
NEED TO JUSTIFY IT (SEE THE LONG ANSWER ABOVE). THE REAL REASON: ITS
BECAUSE OF PEOPLE BEING GLUTTONS AND NOT DOING ANY EXERCISE. ANSWER:
YES, FAT PEOPLE DO USE MORE HEALTH RESOURCES THAN NORMAL PEOPLE. NO, I
DON'T BELIEVE I SHOULD SUBSIDIZE IT OUR OF MY TAX DOLLARS.

HERE ENDEHT MY RANT

Re: FAQs/Q&A about Weight Discrimination: feedback requested -- Posted by Road Warrior on 06-13-05 09:13

I Jah Rastafari wrote:
> FAQs/Q&A about Weight Discrimination
>
> FAQ: What is weight discrimination?
>
> Discrimination is defined as unfair difference in treatment made
> between people because of specific characteristics. It is based on
> prejudice, which is defined as preconceived opinion or judgment without
> just grounds or before sufficient knowledge. In its extreme,
> discrimination is called bigotry, which is defined as obstinate and
> unreasoning attachment to one's own opinions, with intolerance to any
> opposing views. When the specific characteristic is body size and
> weight, that is weight discrimination, weight prejudice, or weight
> bigotry.
>
> Q&A: TRUE
>
> FAQ: Prospective employers often refuse to hire large size people,
> especially in jobs where employees do physical work, or jobs where
> employees interact with the public.
>
> Q&A: PHYSICAL WORK? WHO ARE WE KIDDING? LET'S BE HONEST HERE, IF YOU
> DID PHYSICAL WORK YOU WOULDN'T BE FAT. SIMILARLY, IS AN OBESE PERSON
> A SUITABLE SALES REP AT A SPORTS OR FITNESS STORE OR AN APPROPRIATE
> RECEPTIONIST AT A GYM, DOCTORS OFFICE, FITNESS CENTER OR HEALTH FOOD
> STORE
>
> FAQ: Large people are subject to harassment about their weight by their
> employers, are kept in jobs beneath their abilities, and are often
> demoted or fired because of stated or unstated weight prejudice.
>
> Q&A: BENEATH THEIR ABILITIES HUH? IF SOMEONE DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY
> (OR WILLPOWER) TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES AND THEIR HEALTH DO THINK
> THEY HAVE THE ABILITY (OR WILLPOWER) TO WORK WITH A COUPLE MILLION IN
> COMPANY ASSETS?
>
> FAQ: Physicians and other health care professionals often tell fat
> patients to lose weight rather than treating them for their specific
> medical condition.
>
> Q&A: THIS IS BULLSHIT IN ITS HIGHEST FORM! THEIR 'SPECIFIC MEDICAL
> CONDITION' IS IN ALL LIKELIHOOD BROUGHT ABOUT OR EXACERBATED BY
> OBESITY! COMMON PEOPLE LET'S BE REASONABLE HERE!!
>
> FAQ: Health care facilities and equipment (such as cat scans and MRIs)
> are often inaccessible to large people.
>
> Q&A: MAINLY BECAUSE THE AVERAGE AKA NORMAL PERSON DOES NOT WEIGH OVER
> 300LBS. SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT COSTS MONEY - A LOT OF MONEY - MONEY
> MOST HOSPITALS DON'T HAVE. WHERE'S THE CASH GOING TO COME FROM? YOU
> VOTED IN A PRESIDENT AND CONGRESS WHO VOWED TO CUT TAXES (READ: GRANTS
> TO HOSPITALS AND COMMUNITY CENTERS) -DUMBASSES!
>
> FAQ: Large people are systematically denied health insurance and life
> insurance, or they are forced to pay higher premiums than those of
> average weight.
>
> Q&A: GOOD! WHY SHOULD A HEALTHY PERSON SUBSIDIZE AN OBESE ONE VIA
> INSURANCE PREMIUMS? WHY PUNISH GOOD BEHAVIOUR AND REWARD BAD BEHAVIOUR?
> YOU WANT LOWER PREMIUMS - LOSE WEIGHT! OBESE PEOPLE INCUR MORE HEALTH
> COSTS AND SPEND MORE TIME IN HOSPITAL THEREFORE HIGHER INSURANCE
> PREMIUMS! SIMPLE MATH!
>
> FAQ: Applicants are often turned down by colleges, universities, and
> other educational institutions because of their weight.
>
> Q&A: MORE BULLSHIT! THE OBESE STUDENTS IN QUESTION FAILED ADMISSION TO
> MILITARY COLLEGE BECAUSE THEY FAILED THE PHYSICAL DESPITE MEETING THE
> ACEDEMIC REQUIRMENTS. YOU CAN'T FIGHT IF YOU CAN'T CARRY YOUR
> EQUIPMENT!!
>
> FAQ: Landlords, housing agencies, and real estate agents often deny
> larger people apartments, or show them only inferior locations, to
> prevent them from moving into the neighborhood.
>
> Q&A: OH REALLY? AND THIS IS AFTER NAFFA POSTS CONTINUOUS DIATRIBES
> ABOUT HOW UNFAIR IT IS TO FAT PEOPLE THAT OFFICES, FACILITIES ETC ARE
> ON THE 2ND OR 3RD FLOOR OF THE BUILDING? CAN'T CLIMB 2 OR 3 FLIGHTS
> OF STAIRS TO AN OFFICE BUT YOU'RE PERFECTLY WILLING TO CLIMB 5
> FLIGHTS TO A 'BIG' APARTMENT. ALSO, WHY SHOULD A LANDLORD TAKE THE
> RISK OF HAVING HIS APARTMENT, TOILET, BATHROOM, FLOOR, KITCHEN, ETC
> TRASHED BY A MORBIDLY OBESE PERSON. HAVE WE FORGOTTEN ABOUT MRS
> 'THERE'S A COUCH GRAFTED TO MY ASS' AND HOW THEY HAD TO TEAR DOWN
> THE WALL OF THE APARTMENT TO GET HER OUT?
>
> FAQ: There are many other aspects of weight discrimination. The Council
> has consulted with a person who was denied membership in a traveling
> choir because of her weight, large-size couples who were turned down as
> adoptive parents, and a man who was asked to accept a refund on his gym
> membership because customers had complained that they didn't like to
> look at his body.
>
> Q&A: OK LETS BE HONEST ABOUT THIS.
>
> THE TRAVELLING CHOIR LADY WAS TURNED DOWN BECAUSE SHE WOULD REQUIRE 2
> AIRPLANE SEATS WHENEVER SHE FLEW I.E. THEY WOULD HAVE TO LET SOMEONE GO
> JUST TO TAKE HER ON.
>
> THE FAT COUPLE WERE DENIED ADOPTION RIGHTS BECAUSE THE JUDGE RULED THAT
> THEY WERE SETTING AN UNHEALTHY EXAMPLE AND THAT THEY DID NOT PROVIDE A
> SAFE AND HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT - BLOODY GOOD FOR HIM
>
> THE GUY WHO WAS ASKED TO ACCEPT A REFUND ON HIS GYM MEMBERSHIP -
> CLEAR-CUT DISCRIMINATION. HIRE A LAWYER BUDDY AND SUE THE CRAP OUT OF
> THEM!!
>
> FAQ: Public facilities are inaccessible to many large people because of
> turnstiles, narrow armchairs, narrow doors, hallways, stairs, and small
> bathrooms.
>
> Q&A: I SAID IT BEFORE AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN: THE AVERAGE HUMAN BEING
> DOES NOT AND SHOULD NOT WEIGH 300+ POUNDS! BABY ELEPHANTS AND BABY
> HIPPOPOTAMUSES DON'T WEIGH 300 POUNDS! IF YOU WEIGHT THIS MUCH -
> THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU AND CHANCES ARE IT AIN'T GENETIC!
>
> FAQ: Airplanes, trains, and buses often have seating that is
> uncomfortably small or tight for larger-than-average people.
>
> Q&A: WHAT'S YOUR POINT? SEE ABOVE.
>
> FAQ: Isn't it true that fat people are lazy, stupid, weak-willed,
> lacking in ambition, selfish, greedy, gluttonous, sedentary, and ugly?
> None of these characterizations have any basis in fact. These are false
> stereotypes that are used to justify the prejudice and discrimination
> that fat people suffer..
>
> Q&A: WRONG, WRONG, WRONG ON SO MANY LEVELS WRONG! UNLESS OBESITY IS THE
> NEW QUANTUM PHYSICS IF YOU EAT MORE THAN YOU BURN YOU WILL GAIN WEIGHT.
> IF YOU BURN MORE THAN YOU EAT YOU WILL LOSE WEIGHT. WHY AREN'T YOU
> LOSING WEIGHT YOU ASK? BECAUSE YOU EAT MORE THAN YOU BURN. WHY IS THIS?
> BECAUSE YOU ARE LAZY, STUPID, WEAK-WILLED, LACKING IN AMBITION,
> SELFISH, GREEDY, GLUTTONOUS & SEDENTARY. * UNLESS YOU'RE ACTUALLY
> ILL. HOW MANY OBESE ETHIOPIANS DO YOU SEE? YOU WOULD THINK THAT AT
> LEAST A COUPLE OF THEM WOULD HAVE THIS MYSTERIOUS "OBESITY GENE".
>
> FAQ: Doesn't an employer have the right to refuse to hire fat people?
> An employer can insist that a job applicant be qualified to do the job,
> likeable, and personable, but any criterion which excludes an entire
> group of people is unacceptable.
>
> Q&A: FAIR ENOUGH
>
> FAQ: Doesn't an employer have the right to fire or demote employees if
> they gain a lot of weight?
>
> FAQ: The only valid criterion for job evaluation, raises, promotions,
> disciplinary action, demotion, or firing is job performance. If an
> employer thinks an employee's weight hinders their ability to do the
> job, the employer should discuss this with the employee and make a
> determination, not make a judgment about the person's ability based
> solely on their weight.
>
> Q&A: FAIR ENOUGH. UNLESS WEIGHT HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF THE CRITERIA FOR
> THE JOB.
>
> FAQ: What if the job is a fire fighter or some other position that
> requires physical fitness?
>
> FAQ: Employers have the right to require a test of physical fitness for
> any job that requires strength, agility, or stamina. If the position
> requires a person to be able to carry a hose up a ladder, then the job
> interview can and should include a simulation of that situation. If the
> applicant can perform the task to the employer's satisfaction, it
> should not matter what that applicant weighs.
>
> Q&A: ALSO FAIR ENOUGH. THIS PROBABLY ACCOUNTS FOR THE 'LARGE
> NUMBER' OF OBESE FIREFIGHTERS.
>
>
> FAQ: What if the job is a waitress or a receptionist or salesperson or
> someone else who has to deal with the public all the time?
>
> Employers can insist that their public representatives be well groomed,
> appropriately dressed, and personable. It is wrong to assume that fat
> people are not capable of serving the public well. Consider comedian
> and talk show host Rosie O'Donnell. She is charming, engaging,
> immensely popular, and makes all her guests feel welcome. She has
> stated on network television that she weighs over 200 pounds. But she
> would obviously be an excellent candidate for any position that
> required interaction with clients or members of the public.
>
> Q&A: I'M SORRY? DID YOU CALL ROSIE O'DONNELL CHARMING, ENGAGING, &
> IMMENSELY POPULAR?
>
> FAQ: Isn't it true that fat people take up too much space on buses,
> trains, and airplanes?
>
> Q&A: SHORT ANSWER - YES
>
> FAQ: This question has made headlines because of the notoriously
> cramped seating on airplanes, and a lawsuit in which a fat person sued
> an airline for requiring her to buy two seats. But airlines and other
> carriers do not state that they are selling a certain amount of space.
> They advertise fares for passage for one adult from one point to
> another. Truth in advertising requires that they provide that passage.
>
> Q&A: SHORT ANSWER - TOUGH
>
> FAQ: Aren't Americans getting fatter and fatter?
>
> Yes, the statistics show that the average weight of people in this
> country is going up.
>
> Q&A: SHORT ANSWER - YES
>
> FAQ: Isn't this because of people being gluttons and not doing any
> exercise?
>
> No. The reasons for our increasing average weight have much more to do
> with changes in the economy. We were once an agrarian society, and most
> people did physically demanding work all the time. When we became an
> industrial society, work was still physically demanding. Today, most
> people's work requires little or no physical activity. Cars and public
> transportation are so available that walking and bicycling are no
> longer common modes of transportation. In addition, our style of
> preparing and eating food has changed completely. We used to prepare
> food from scratch in the home, and eat most meals at home. Today, most
> people eat a substantial portion of their food outside of the home.
> Food is no longer scarce, and is in fact universally available and
> widely advertised. Huge industries compete with each other to make
> their food more enticing, more available, and cheaper than that of
> their competitors. Advertisers are not under any pressure to sell
> healthy food, so they advertise what will tempt people to eat as much
> as possible.
>
> Q&A: THE MORE WRONG THE BEHAVIOUR THE MORE THE WRONGDOERS NEED TO
> JUSTIFY IT (SEE THE LONG ANSWER ABOVE). THE REAL REASON: ITS BECAUSE
> OF PEOPLE BEING GLUTTONS AND NOT DOING ANY EXERCISE
>
>
> FAQ: Isn't it unhealthy to be fat?
>
> Sometimes. While some fat people are unhealthy, there are some people
> who can be both fat and healthy. Fatness by itself is not a disease,
> but rather a risk factor for certain chronic diseases, such as
> diabetes. That means that in a group of fat people, you will find more
> diabetics than in a group of thin people. There is a correlation
> between fatness and diabetes. Scientist have not, however, proven that
> fatness causes diabetes. Correlation is not the same as causation. Some
> researchers have proposed that there is another unknown factor that
> causes both the diabetes and the fatness.Poor nutrition and lack of
> physical activity have, however, been proven to be unhealthy. This is
> true no matter whether a person is thin or fat.Even if it were proven
> that being fat was always unhealthy, the problem is that we do not have
> a cure for fatness. (Also see the answer to the following
> question.)Shouldn't we do something about the increasing weight of
> Americans?Yes and no. Good public health policy demands that we address
> the problems of poor nutrition and lack of physical activity.
> Pre-schools, elementary schools, high schools, and colleges should be
> providing nutrition education, healthy food choices, and opportunities
> for physical activity for students. Businesses should provide similar
> opportunities for their workers. Government programs should subsidize
> such opportunities for poor people. And there should be public
> advertising campaigns that teach people the benefits of eating
> nutritious food and getting enough physical activity.However, it is
> wrong-and counter-productive-to make such an educational campaign
> into a weight-loss program. First of all, knowing a person's weight is
> not the same as knowing whether they eat healthy food or whether they
> get enough exercise. Thin people need this education just as much as
> fat people. And secondly, all currently known weight-loss techniques
> have been abysmal failures. More than 90% of dieters regain the weight
> they lost. No other medical recommendation has such a high failure
> rate. Until science has come up with a way for people to lose weight
> and keep it off permanently, it is useless to recommend weight loss. It
> may even be damaging to the public health, since there is some evidence
> that repeated diets can lead to binge eating and choosing much less
> healthy foods. Many dieters end up regaining more weight than they
> lost. Some feel that the diet craze in the last few decades is at least
> partly responsible for the increasing rate of obesity in America.
>
>
> Q&A: AS ABOVE, THE MORE WRONG THE BEHAVIOUR THE MORE THE WRONGDOERS
> NEED TO JUSTIFY IT (SEE THE LONG ANSWER ABOVE). THE REAL REASON: ITS
> BECAUSE OF PEOPLE BEING GLUTTONS AND NOT DOING ANY EXERCISE
>
>
> FAQ: Isn't it true that fat people use up more than their share of the
> public health care dollar?
>
> No. As a society, we have chosen to join together and share in the
> funding of public health care. Many of us also pay for private health
> care and/or health insurance. We do not get to pick who deserves what
> portion of the resources available. Athletes use more health care
> services because they are at higher risk for broken bones, injuries to
> soft tissues, etc. Those who drive cars put themselves at greater risk
> for traffic accidents. Older people use a majority of the public health
> care collar. And to use a truly parallel example, poverty is a risk
> factor for most major diseases. Poor people use more public money on
> health care, and have worse outcomes. The difference is that our
> society does not disapprove of athletes or car drivers, and we
> recognize that it is unfair to blame poor people or old people for
> their greater use of health care resources. But when it comes to
> obesity, weight prejudice makes our society intolerant. We blame fat
> people for their condition no matter what the real cause. We blame fat
> people for not losing weight, no matter how difficult or impossible
> that might be. We blame fat people for using more than "their share" of
> health care resources. Our society does this because of prejudice,
> bigotry, and intolerance against those who are heavier than average.
> There are several theories for the origin of our culture's disapproval
> of fatness. Since it seems to have started in the early part of the
> twentieth century, some say it started with motion pictures, since they
> say "the camera puts on 15 pounds". One theory says that the beginning
> of ready-to-wear clothing changed everything. Until the early 1900s,
> all clothing was custom-made, so a person's size was of no
> significance. Once clothing was manufactured in a range of sizes,
> anything outside that range started to be considered different, or not
> "normal". Since weight discrimination affects women disproportionately,
> some feel that the disapproval of larger body size has its roots in the
> rise in women's power. After women won the right to vote and started
> participating as full active members of society, many men felt
> threatened by women's power and stature, and there was a backlash
> against feminism. Even today, successful women are constrained by the
> cultural pressure that forces them to spend enormous amounts of time
> and money on their appearance. A large portion of that time and energy
> is spent on the obsession with thinness and the fear of fatness.
>
>
> Q&A: AS ABOVE, THE MORE WRONG THE BEHAVIOUR THE MORE THE WRONGDOERS
> NEED TO JUSTIFY IT (SEE THE LONG ANSWER ABOVE). THE REAL REASON: ITS
> BECAUSE OF PEOPLE BEING GLUTTONS AND NOT DOING ANY EXERCISE. ANSWER:
> YES, FAT PEOPLE DO USE MORE HEALTH RESOURCES THAN NORMAL PEOPLE. NO, I
> DON'T BELIEVE I SHOULD SUBSIDIZE IT OUR OF MY TAX DOLLARS.

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Did your mother have any children that lived? I thought not.

You must be a new idiot. if anyone here is butt-ugly it is you-inside
and out you black hearted bastard.

This group is full of idiots who love to pick on people who either
cannot or will not fight back. That is changing in real life as well on
this group. The IT community is fed up with abusers of anonymous
remailers who use them to harass and attempt to hurt people. I doubt
there is an idiot here with the stones to stand up an be counted for a
belief. All they want to do is get their jollies by ridicule. As I find
out who they are I will expose them to the world and let the chips (or
limbs) fall where they may.

LV
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