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ARTICLE: Diabetic No More!


Re: ARTICLE: Diabetic No More! -- Posted by BJ in Texas on 07-22-05 06:02

cp wrote:
||| You offered the challenge, so now follow through on it. If
||| your
||| too much a coward to follow through, I can understand.
||
|| What do you want me to do? Get on a plane to Texas? I may be
|| buying a car there, perhaps we can meet.
||
||| You are a fraud and a spammer, repying to this thread proves
||| nothing
||| since it allows you to issue challenges that you do not have
||| to
||| backup.
||
|| How am I supposed to back them up besides writing what I
|| wrote? You want me to send you colonoscopy results?
||
|| Spammer? Sure, whatever, not all spam is bad. Cross posting
|| irrelevant cr@p, such as get-rich-quick schemes I'd call
|| spam. What I posted is alternative information. It's a
|| newsgroup after all.
||
||| And to continue peddling your quack cures without
||
|| Cure for what? I'm not advertising a diabetes cure, but an
|| excellent colon cleansing product that blows everything out
|| the other end.
||
|| If you're talking about that raw fruit diet article; that was
|| something very interesting I found; I figured someone might
|| be interested to know about this. It's a raw fruit diet,
|| what's so terrible about that? Whether it cured the writer's
|| diabetes you're not one to question.
||
||| without taking responsibility or answering to those to which
||| you
||| attempt to sell.
||
|| How do you know I don't? I sold two boxes of this stuff,
|| mostly at work and almost all to people I know. Most of what
|| I sold went to people who bought 2-3 times so that they can
|| give the product to their family; incredulous people such as
|| yourself who wouldn't believe otherwise.
||
|| chris

Coward hide all you want. Most scammers protest when called out.
Most run too.

Besides, if I had your phone number and address I could pay you
a visit on one of my frequent trips to the area. Hey, it would
give
you a chance to follow up on your threats.


Come up to Vancouver and tell that to my face.


Put up or shut up time.

BJ

--
--
"In this life, you can get away with being either stupid or
greedy. Being both however is unforgivable, and could even be
fatal."



Re: ARTICLE: Diabetic No More! -- Posted by cp on 07-22-05 22:01

I thought I was talking to reasonable people.

> Coward hide all you want. Most scammers protest when called out.
> Most run too.

I guess I'm talking to an a-hole in a brick wall.

> Besides, if I had your phone number and address I could pay you
> a visit on one of my frequent trips to the area. Hey, it would give you a chance to follow up on your threats.
>
> Come up to Vancouver and tell that to my face.
>
>
> Put up or shut up time.

Threats? "Come up to Vancouver and tell that to my face" is a threat? Did you fail anything else besides kindergarten? I have a
policy of not saying anything online that I wouldn't say to a person's face, you should do the same.

Give you my address? You need a colon cleansing or something? My email address is chrisp_AT_mail.ru next time you're in the area let
me know.







Re: ARTICLE: Diabetic No More! -- Posted by BJ in Texas on 07-25-05 05:23

cp wrote:
|| I thought I was talking to reasonable people.
||
||| Coward hide all you want. Most scammers protest when called
||| out.
||| Most run too.
||
|| I guess I'm talking to an a-hole in a brick wall.
||
||| Besides, if I had your phone number and address I could pay
||| you
||| a visit on one of my frequent trips to the area. Hey, it
||| would give you a chance to follow up on your threats.

||| Come up to Vancouver and tell that to my face.
|||
|||
||| Put up or shut up time.
||
|| Threats? "Come up to Vancouver and tell that to my face" is a
|| threat? Did you fail anything else besides kindergarten? I
|| have a policy of not saying anything online that I wouldn't
|| say to a person's face, you should do the same.

Well, coward it sure looks like a threat to most. If not a
threat
then at least an invitation. I do need your address so that I
can
take you up on the invitation.

|| Give you my address?

You did invite me :-). What's wrong backing out of the
invitation.

|| You need a colon cleansing or something?

Wouldn't give you a nickel for your scam products. Besides I
don't
buy anything from spammers.

|| My email address is chrisp_AT_mail.ru next time you're in the
|| area let me know.

Don't give me the bullshit address. You already told me where
you
lived in one of your first posts. You are nothing but a coward.

If you are going to issue threats (invitations) maybe you should
get
a little more backbone.

BJ

--
"If at first you don't succeed try again then quit. No use being
a damn fool about the thing." -- Mark Twain



Re: ARTICLE: Diabetic No More! -- Posted by Ma¢k on 08-02-05 18:22

On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 09:00:41 GMT, "cp" Huffed and
Puffed the following into the madness of usenet:

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>From: "cp"
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>Subject: ARTICLE: Diabetic No More!
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>
>This might be interesting to some. I am not looking for a discussion and will not be replying to any further posts on this thread.
>
>http://www.livingnutrition.com/rawfoodarticles/diabetic.html
>
>Diabetic No More!
>by Marylyn Szakacs
>Living Nutrition Vol. 5
>
>As I write this story, it has been four short months since my rebirth, that day in March, 1998 when I attended a lecture given by
>Roe Gallo and began pursuing a healthier lifestyle. I was very skeptical as I listened to ideas that seemed, at first, to be bizarre
>and foreign. However, Roe presented herself as knowledgeable about the physiology of the human body and was a shining example of her
>own philosophy. As I listened, the ideas began to sound so logical, so natural: eat only uncooked organic fruits, vegetables, nuts
>and seeds. I was already semi-vegetarian so it wasn't a big leap to go all the way. Two of my friends, Suzie Milkowich and Marie
>Ruxton added testimony about their experiences with the raw food diet and I realized that this might be the answer to my prayers.
>At age 52 I made a life-altering decision to follow Roe's plan. I felt that I had nothing to lose; except possibly some unwanted
>weight (I weighed 183 pounds) the toxins stored in my body and, hopefully, my diabetes! I'd been searching for an answer to my
>diabetes since I was diagnosed as borderline diabetic approximately seven years before. At first I used diet to try to control blood
>sugar levels, with limited success. Doctors prescribed a variety of oral medications but sugar levels fluctuated. In 1996, after
>major kidney surgery with almost fatal complications, my blood sugar levels rose and I was told that I would have to inject myself
>with insulin. At first I was in denial and then I was devastated when I realized I was losing control of my body. I was told this
>disease was incurable; it was degenerative; it was forever and repercussions were ugly at the end!
>
>Being a very positive person, I did not accept the experts' answers but instead started my own quest for a more constructive
>solution. I subscribed to alternative medicine publications, joined a vitamin co-op, shopped at health food stores and spent much
>time and money to find something that worked. Although there was some improvement, my diabetic condition was still there At one
>point I was spending almost $200 each month on vitamins and supplements to make me healthy! I knew that I could not go on this way.
>The information was overwhelming and sometimes conflicting and very confusing.
>I decided to seek my answers through a wholistic osteopathic doctor, hoping he could clarify the tangled web of information. He
>suggested that I try a macrobiotic diet. I consulted his dietitician and bought all the required food from his office store. I was
>willing to try anything to get healthy again, even eating whole oats (unprocessed, like a horse eats), whole barley, whole rye,
>whole buckwheat, seaweed, whole brown rice, whole millet, miso, organic whole legumes, and a variety of supplements. After six
>months of this costly and time-consuming regimen, my fasting blood sugar was 248, higher than it had been previously. Imagine how
>discouraged I felt that day in the doctor's office as I tried to digest this news which was the exact opposite of what I expected to
>hear. On the way home, I thought about what I was doing wrong, and blamed myself for the negative results, beating myself up over my
>efforts. What should I do now?
>
>Enter Roe Gallo! Call it what you want - divine providence, coincidence, luck - the timing was right. On the spur of the moment I
>decided to attend Roe's lecture that I heard about through Suzie. I spoke to Roe after the talk and she assured me that the fruit
>would not increase my blood sugar levels. I did not feel ready for fasting, but started slowly with orange juice, other fruits and
>raw vegetables. The first oranges I bought weren't organically grown, but using an antique hand juicer I was on my way. Suzie and
>Marie, helped me and supported me by listening any time of the day or night, offering their encouragement and sharing their
>knowledge. They helped me get organic produce. They were there when the tingling and pain in my fingers and arms was so intense that
>I couldn't sleep. They were there when I had my doubts about what I was doing. They were there when friends and family thought I was
>crazy. They were there throughout every crisis.
>
>After one month of juicing and raw foods, I tested my blood sugar level. I was very scared, but when I looked, the numbers on the
>monitor said 141 - that's over 100 points lower than it had been the previous month! Needless to say, I was elated. And so far it's
>been holding steady, except for one or two setbacks when I ate foods that I wasn't supposed to eat. But I'm human and I do mess up
>sometimes. Now I know that if I stray from the path, I'll pay the consequences. I feel 99% better when I follow Roe's natural plan.
>I also look much better since I've shed approximately 40 pounds. I'm still detoxing; getting rid of years of poisons that have
>clogged my system. At this point I can see the end of the tunnel. I will be free of the sludge that keeps me from having a "perfect
>body". inside and out. And best of all, I am diabetic no more!
>

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Re: ARTICLE: Diabetic No More! -- Posted by RK on 08-08-05 10:40

done

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|
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| >From: "cp"
| >Newsgroups: alt.health.diabetes
| >Subject: ARTICLE: Diabetic No More!
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| >
| >This might be interesting to some. I am not looking for a discussion and
will not be replying to any further posts on this thread.
| >
| >http://www.livingnutrition.com/rawfoodarticles/diabetic.html
| >
| >Diabetic No More!
| >by Marylyn Szakacs
| >Living Nutrition Vol. 5
| >
| >As I write this story, it has been four short months since my rebirth,
that day in March, 1998 when I attended a lecture given by
| >Roe Gallo and began pursuing a healthier lifestyle. I was very skeptical
as I listened to ideas that seemed, at first, to be bizarre
| >and foreign. However, Roe presented herself as knowledgeable about the
physiology of the human body and was a shining example of her
| >own philosophy. As I listened, the ideas began to sound so logical, so
natural: eat only uncooked organic fruits, vegetables, nuts
| >and seeds. I was already semi-vegetarian so it wasn't a big leap to go
all the way. Two of my friends, Suzie Milkowich and Marie
| >Ruxton added testimony about their experiences with the raw food diet and
I realized that this might be the answer to my prayers.
| >At age 52 I made a life-altering decision to follow Roe's plan. I felt
that I had nothing to lose; except possibly some unwanted
| >weight (I weighed 183 pounds) the toxins stored in my body and,
hopefully, my diabetes! I'd been searching for an answer to my
| >diabetes since I was diagnosed as borderline diabetic approximately seven
years before. At first I used diet to try to control blood
| >sugar levels, with limited success. Doctors prescribed a variety of oral
medications but sugar levels fluctuated. In 1996, after
| >major kidney surgery with almost fatal complications, my blood sugar
levels rose and I was told that I would have to inject myself
| >with insulin. At first I was in denial and then I was devastated when I
realized I was losing control of my body. I was told this
| >disease was incurable; it was degenerative; it was forever and
repercussions were ugly at the end!
| >
| >Being a very positive person, I did not accept the experts' answers but
instead started my own quest for a more constructive
| >solution. I subscribed to alternative medicine publications, joined a
vitamin co-op, shopped at health food stores and spent much
| >time and money to find something that worked. Although there was some
improvement, my diabetic condition was still there At one
| >point I was spending almost $200 each month on vitamins and supplements
to make me healthy! I knew that I could not go on this way.
| >The information was overwhelming and sometimes conflicting and very
confusing.
| >I decided to seek my answers through a wholistic osteopathic doctor,
hoping he could clarify the tangled web of information. He
| >suggested that I try a macrobiotic diet. I consulted his dietitician and
bought all the required food from his office store. I was
| >willing to try anything to get healthy again, even eating whole oats
(unprocessed, like a horse eats), whole barley, whole rye,
| >whole buckwheat, seaweed, whole brown rice, whole millet, miso, organic
whole legumes, and a variety of supplements. After six
| >months of this costly and time-consuming regimen, my fasting blood sugar
was 248, higher than it had been previously. Imagine how
| >discouraged I felt that day in the doctor's office as I tried to digest
this news which was the exact opposite of what I expected to
| >hear. On the way home, I thought about what I was doing wrong, and blamed
myself for the negative results, beating myself up over my
| >efforts. What should I do now?
| >
| >Enter Roe Gallo! Call it what you want - divine providence, coincidence,
luck - the timing was right. On the spur of the moment I
| >decided to attend Roe's lecture that I heard about through Suzie. I spoke
to Roe after the talk and she assured me that the fruit
| >would not increase my blood sugar levels. I did not feel ready for
fasting, but started slowly with orange juice, other fruits and
| >raw vegetables. The first oranges I bought weren't organically grown, but
using an antique hand juicer I was on my way. Suzie and
| >Marie, helped me and supported me by listening any time of the day or
night, offering their encouragement and sharing their
| >knowledge. They helped me get organic produce. They were there when the
tingling and pain in my fingers and arms was so intense that
| >I couldn't sleep. They were there when I had my doubts about what I was
doing. They were there when friends and family thought I was
| >crazy. They were there throughout every crisis.
| >
| >After one month of juicing and raw foods, I tested my blood sugar level.
I was very scared, but when I looked, the numbers on the
| >monitor said 141 - that's over 100 points lower than it had been the
previous month! Needless to say, I was elated. And so far it's
| >been holding steady, except for one or two setbacks when I ate foods that
I wasn't supposed to eat. But I'm human and I do mess up
| >sometimes. Now I know that if I stray from the path, I'll pay the
consequences. I feel 99% better when I follow Roe's natural plan.
| >I also look much better since I've shed approximately 40 pounds. I'm
still detoxing; getting rid of years of poisons that have
| >clogged my system. At this point I can see the end of the tunnel. I will
be free of the sludge that keeps me from having a "perfect
| >body". inside and out. And best of all, I am diabetic no more!
| >
|
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